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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
  4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
  5. Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

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Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

And Lemmy has an issue with it's backend implementation which sometimes causes multiple copies of a comment being posted without the posters knowledge.

It then gets flagged as spam and the poster banned. Ask me how I know.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As someone who implement a Lemmy client it might be a client side problem. If the server is struggling you will time out when sending the comment. If the client side has any sort of retry logic it will send the comment again. This can cause the comment to be posted multiple times. There might be a bug on the server as well but I know for sure it can be caused by the client.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's what you are describing, and it's not a client problem. It's impossible for a client to solve. You can't tell whether a timed out request succeeded or not.

Idempotent network requests are a standard feature of many APIs - sending the same request multiple times should result in only one action being performed, but Lemmy doesn't support them yet.

So yes, it's "caused" by retries, but the bug is that the backend doesn't properly support retries. Clients don't do anything wrong.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should do what Reddit does and by default make a 5 second rate limit of sending posts and comments, the first one gets accepted, the next ones get rejected within the 5 second ratelimit.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another popular solution I see is to have the client generate a UUID when posting. Then the server can very easily tell if a request is a duplicate.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen this concept called idempotency tokens. I thought it was common but a quick search didn't find any articles on it so maybe the name is not that common.

[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Nonce is the opposite. It's never supposed to be used more than once, right?

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

I searched for the issue when it happened to me and saw a bug report for it with the Lemmy devs confirming.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

how do you know?

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

how do you know?

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

how do you know?

[–] deedan06_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Weird how reddit and lemmy have the exact same issue regarding that.

[–] saroh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well shit. At the same time the ban hammer seems a bit easy both ways :') Like you can at least look at the poster's history...