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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (3 children)

True, but it's not a having kids problem. It's a capitalism problem, as usual.

The same case could be made for hobbies. You need money for hobbies, so they trap you in the system.

Destroy capitalism and suddenly having kids is great (relatively speaking, subject to personal preferences).

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I think OOP is referring specifically to the cultural pressures everywhere telling you that you need to have kids. The people pushing that the most are conservatives who are straight up puppets for billionaires

[–] LemmySuxNow@reddthat.com 15 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

They need more labor and consumers. Every American is more profit for the corporations that rule us.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Also more soldiers to send off on needless wars like the Vietnam War, Korean War, Iran War , Afghan War, etc...

All the wars Injust mentioned didnt substantially change any of the lives of the peoples of the countries that participated in them.

Vietnam is still a somewhat socialistic state, North Korea and South Korea still exist till today, Iran is still ruled miliarily by the IRGC and parliamentarily by the Iranian clerical elites, and the Afghanis still dont care at all about nato and are rulled by the Taliban....

Just more soldiers into thhe needless meat grinders, and more slaves and consumers to do the bidding of the richest people in society.

There will be more and more needless wars with dozens of innocent , impressionable adults thrown into the different meat grinders. There will be mroe and more people turned into personal toys for the rich or into their slaves and consumers ...

It is not until the average person gets fed up and knowledgable about how this circular and awful system fucks them , their loved ones, their communities and the kids of their communities over and says "No More! " will we see a substantial change to be subsubstantiated.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

The "life script" (to happiness?)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You need money for hobbies

some hobbies. Other hobbies can even make you money.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Other hobbies can even make you money.

My hobby is data entry in spreadsheets for banks and oil companies.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

My condolences.

[–] Starchildjohn@leminal.space 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A hobby that makes money is a job, once you start to depend on it it starts being stressful and stops being a hobby. I've been through that cycle a couple of times.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Okok, what i wanted to say; a lot of hobbies are free or next-to-free.

[–] adamhepner@szmer.info 2 points 18 hours ago

I've completed sailing course recently, and I'm still in awe that one of activities that the instructors do in their spare time is handling the private yachts between ports, like bringing one from Greece to Spain. Seems like an awesome side gig.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Destroy capitalism and suddenly having kids is great

Depends on the system. The reason why capitalism has proliferated is it allows selfishness, which is part of human nature. Honestly, is there a better economic system, which also rewards selfishness like capitalism?

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

The main reason why capitalism has proliferated is because capitalists slaughtered everyone who opposed it at first. Millions killed across all of Europe, simply for defending their homes and common land from being taken by the Church and aristocracy.

After resistance was crushed, and people no longer owned anything, they had no choice but to work as slaves for capitalists. Ever since then, they have constantly been pitting us against each other, and we've had no choice but to play their game, since otherwise it's homelessness or death.

People tend to be a whole lot less selfish if they don't need to struggle for survival, and if they're not brainwashed into thinking it has to be this way from early childhood.

In every single study and poll, results consistently show that close to nobody supports capitalism, and nearly everyone is perfectly willing to share fairly, so that we can all live well.

Selfishness is not human nature. At least not for the majority of people. Cooperation, sharing, and helping others are. It might not be obvious, because capitalists have been forcefully beating it out of us for the last 500 years.

But it doesn't matter. Capitalists hold all the power, as they've always had, and will sooner die than let any meaningful change take place. Governments would rather order the military to shoot protesters than listen to any anti-capitalist points.

We're not allowed to question anything about capitalism. It's the worst, most destructive religion anyone has ever come up with and forced onto others, built on the most asinine dogmas possible.