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[–] Evil_Incarnate@sopuli.xyz 42 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Depends who you ask. I know a guy who's vegan because he likes animals. I asked him about honey and he said "fuck insects".

But opinion differs because bees are pretty much free to go about their lives and we just steal the honey every now and then. It's not hurting them and not keeping them confined, so....

Others put the line at no hurting animals ever. I don't ask about fleas or mosquitos or tapeworms though.

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

bees are pretty much free to go about their lives and we just steal the honey every now and then. It's not hurting them

I don't think this is entirely true. Honey bees are basically factory farmed, we don't just go into the woods and steal honey. They are ecologically problematic as they compete with native bee species. I'm not an expert but look up how bees are being exploited for almond pollination in California for instance.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a valid position, but it applies equally to most kinds of land use. Agave plantations are not less ecologically problematic. Agriculture has an impact.

[–] Tywele@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And animal agriculture uses even more land than eating plants directly. We have to eat something to survive and eating plants has the least impact.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

For most animals yes, but bees (the topic at hand) are different because their land use overlaps with other kinds rather than displacing it. The competition with native insects is a real problem but not necessarily more of a problem than honey alternatives.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Fuck mosquitos. I kill them with a passion. I would estimate I have been bitten a few million times. They're numbing protein doesn't work on me and I'm allergic to it. Nothing like feeling your body is on fire.