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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Considering how people struggle with the comparatively small hiccup that is the current Iran-US war, I find it hard to believe that all commenters here would be fine when global trade dwindles.

I however am built different and would simply survive economic and societal collapse.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Society is going to collapse anyway, the question is, how hard and how badly. The whole idea behind "not sustainable" is that it is not possible to sustain something. I personally rather hit the brakes than accelerate before hitting the wall.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

The whole idea behind “not sustainable” is that it is not possible to sustain something.

-1 That is not "the idea!", that is the definition. A recursive one at that.
-2 That doesn't really follow from either your or OPs comments. What is not sustainable? The economy, society, global trade? Did you delete a sentence?

I think your comment makes more sense if I was arguing for people to counteract population decline. I am not. I was simply pointing out that it won't be sunshine and rainbows as OP and many commenters here seem to believe.

[–] PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If society is constantly getting richer every single year and has for decades... Why are people still struggling? Either poor people are unreasonable/irrational, we don't actually care about reducing cost of basic necessities,or the wealth increases are being siphoned out elsewhere.

Population decline would be a non-issue in a functioning economy, because a small shrinkage of the economy would be a non-issue.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I always hate it when someone says that we would need to reduce our standard of living to remain sustainable. It's 100% bullshit predicted on using a definition of "standard of living" that nobody understands (roughly speaking I think it's only used to compare two different persons or groups in an idealized snapshot in time). We waste so much food. Some of it's necessary, but, 40%??

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

yes! If there wasn’t so much overconsumption by a small set of very rich folks everyone could live a comfortable life sustainably, it’s so frustrating