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[–] diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Ik this won't be a popular take because, as evidenced by this very comment section even, critical thinking isn't popular, but this is sexual harassment. Sending people porn non-consentually is sexual harassment. Yes, even when the person you're sexually harassing a piece of shit themselves, is that seriously a hard concept to grasp?? This dude is a piece of shit too if he thinks it's okay to send someone porn without consent.

EDIT: Harassment not assault.

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Did you read the linked article?

If so, could you be so kind as to speak to why you disagree with its unusually thorough and detailed legal analysis of the matter at hand?

The Shrek image may have been crude or vulgar. But in context, there is no serious argument Byrnes sent it to arouse anyone’s sexual interest, let alone that it satisfies the Miller test. Byrnes sent it to another adult, reportedly accompanied by political commentary describing Cirino as “Young Mussolini.” That’s protected political mockery, not obscenity.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i can't take an article or author serious when they argue shreenis is not titillating.

That bish hot mid type robo pussy. I really just want to bury my face in between some fat ladies thighs. I am all giddy.

Did you read the linked article?

Oh, the sides do orbit, know what I mean, brother?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look, I didn't flash my dong to everyone in the train to arouse anyone's sexual interest so there's no serious argument it was obscene

Well, I did flash my dong to everyone in the gravy train explicitly to arouse sexual interest, which is the same reason I now turn the subject to testicular torsion. You're gunna feel this. Brace yourself, and bless your heart!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ha! People who can't tell morals from ethics will argue with lawyers and claim the lawyers are fake, all day. No one knows more than a YouTube grad!

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wym?

Morally, I’m neutral about the act of sending the photo. It’s crass but was sent to a GOP politician, so big shrug.

Ethically, I think it violates the general principle of “don’t be a dick”, but see it as a nothingburger in the grand scheme of things.

Semantically, I don’t think it’s sexual (*in the sense of anyone getting their rocks off) in any way, shape, or form, nor credibly assault. I don’t think the photo as shown in the article is remotely distressing to anyone imaginable except a deeply-repressed GOP closet case.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sexual harassment, not assault

[–] diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

True, edited the original comment to reflect this.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Generally, harassment is a course of conduct over a period of time, not a one-off. The bar for a one-off encounter being harassment of any kind is high, with good reason.

That reason, to me, is that any reasonable person should be robust enough that all but the most serious, malicious communication should be something they can shrug off without much ill effect if it's a single isolated message. Getting a picture of a wanking cartoon character and a disparaging message isn't going to be pleasant for most people, sure, but if that's it?

The logic behind punishment for sexual harassment is not - or should not - be any different from the logic behind punishment for non-sexual harassment; it should be proportional to the harm caused, and it should take the same standard of a "person of reasonable firmness" or whatever the legalese is.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Nobody coming off well in this story.