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I'm no military strategist, but normally if a country threatens to take over your territory you don't let them build military bases there.
There is basically nothing new in that agreement, USA always had the option to have more bases in Greenland, and they used to have that during the cold war. It is USA themselves that have limited the number of bases they wanted to have there.
Trump just think he made some kind of deal, when in reality that deal has been there for more than half a century.
Sure, but with Trump there never really is a "deal", because at some point in the future he'll just decide he wants something else. See, e.g., NAFTA. In this case, he'll build up the bases and then declare Greenland part of the U.S.. I'd like to believe that the midterm elections will shift the balance of power, and Trump will face a reckoning, but in reality I think he'll do something like declare martial law and fuck the elections. He's already ordered republicans to "cheat like hell". It's going to be an interesting year end.
Absolutely Trump is not to be trusted, but I think this was not so much about the deal as it was to appease Trump so he will focus elsewhere.
There's also a clause that says they can only be there if USA is in NATO.
Which ties them.to NATO for the foreseeable.
Oh yeah I'm sure we'll promptly vacate these military bases if/when we leave NATO.
Probably not but it ties you to NATO for literally nothing The US had th option to build these bases already.
You just got sold ice in Greenland
One, that's unfortunate
Two, if the US breaks off NATO, it's not like anyone should expect whoever is there at the time to say "oh okay never mind" and then sit up and leave.
They weren't there before for whatever reason, and now that they have a foot in, they're just gonna keep pushing.
Technically he lost ground, we had very very wide range on the number and location of us bases and now we're limited to two without renegotiation.
It's like when you distract a crying baby by shaking the rattle that's already in their hand.
Besides the Orange signature being worthless, they could deal for less enemy's presence, not more.
Yeah, this is... Trumps playbook again and again.
Make up fake controversial bullshit, get massive headlines, never actually follow through with bullshit, and then just do what we were gonna do already and call it a 'victory'. But nothing was ever really done, it was all a storm in a teacup and legally or operationally nothing really changed.
All his 'wins' are just maintaining the status quo, and the media and the public eat it up.
I don't really like it. Complains about the cost of defending a Europe he hates. Spends/Builds bases in missile/aircraft range to be closer to attack Europe but defended by isolation and no armies nearby.
Trump is insane and now he is demented too. we have reached a stage where it's mostly about distraction and hoping he doesn't do anything too crazy like attacking Iran.
Yeah I was always surprised they didn't just take over this way to begin with.
These bases won't be operational for years, by which time we'll likely be rational again.
And with the US carrier strategy, this doesn't really make attacking Greenland any easier or more likely.
They're not building from scratch, but one is abandoned and one was only used by dog sledders...
The current US government isn't exactly competent, this is not a short term threat.
And locks us into NATO in the meantime, which is a short term threat
Really, America is going to have complete generational turnover of its electorate in just a couple of years?
Well if America doesn't, I don't think we'll still be calling it "America" anymore in a couple of years.
Yep, nothing new about those bases, just two money pits in the middle of nowhere. If they end up being more than a rough airfield and a dozen marines in a tent, it will be shocking. And by “it” I mean the price tag.
My main concern is that Trump seems to have learned that "military facility" is his magic "I can do what I want" card. The ballroom has a bunker under it so it's a matter of national security to build it. His triumphal arch is going to be a sniper nest and drone launcher (can't make this stuff up) so it's a matter of national security.
So let's see if those "military bases" come with oil wells or strip mines as an integral part of their design.
You think? I decided I won't go to Fascistan ever again in my lifetime, about 10 years ago. Neither for missions nor for holidays. Lots of bridges are burnt and it will take more than a lifetime to rebuild trust. By which time Fascistan and Putistan and Europe will likely be irrelevant because China and India etc...
I hope we will be rational again in a couple years. It took trials and decades of divided Germany to mostly fix the scourge of Nazism. We might have to ban all MAGA speech and symbols, which would be an interesting Constitutional challenge.