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Programming languages are unconvincing (atleast C++, Java and its ilk, Smalltalk, Lisp) (leminal.space)
submitted 1 month ago by tetrislife@leminal.space to c/programming@beehaw.org
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I feel proponents of any programming language put a lot of spin around what isolated aspects it is good for, but fail to illustrate what a programmer in even one target domain gains from using it.

Are there programming language implementations unlike what is described above, that you feel back up their marketing?

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[–] tetrislife@leminal.space -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You are right Python and C++ have a huge amount of collateral available going for them. But is the utility of their language features backed up by any examples or explanations? Rigid object-orientedness as seen in Python, C++, Java, modern Javascript is not conducive to good software in practice, and we are just muddling along.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 5 points 1 month ago

Neither python or JS are "rigidly" OOP, they have support for them but you can very easily do functional or imperative programming in either. out of those I believe Java is the only one that "rigid OOP" is a fair descriptor for, and I could be wrong on that as its not a language I've used (c# which I have and started as essentially microsoft Java has moved away from that style by incorporating numerous functional features from f#)

[–] for_some_delta@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

Object-oriented is a design pattern that the language can facilitate. Just because a language supports "is a" doesn't mean "has a" does not exist. There are a lot of design patterns. Use the best language and design patterns for your team.