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litereally everybody? no, they can't.
but most people can become nurses or re-train to find jobs that pay well and are in high demand. it's fine if they don't want to do that, but the opportunity is there. the barriers to economic opportunity aren't as high as people on this site would like to believe, but they are more interested in writing novels about how awful their lives are and how everything is hopeless than doing anything pragmatic to improve their situation. or they are tech heads with big incomes who are upset they can't afford shiny new toys like gaming PCs because of data centers
If most people are nurses people will be desperate for a nurse job and wages will be as low as they can get.
Anybody can become rich but not everybody.
The trick is to make it easier for clever people to get a better job than it is for them to improve society as a whole. Resources can either go into boats and mansions, or healthcare for all.
yeah, that's how the economy works. demand and supply.
that's what's going on in tech right now, too many people chasing too few jobs.
there are no guarantees in life, so you have to adapt.
and a lot of people would be a lot richer if they had better economic habits.
define improving society? like a greater GDP? a greater per capital income? etc. also realize that your definition of 'better society' likely has nothing to do with someone else's.
healthcare for all sounds good on paper, but how can it be achieved if we already have a medical system that can't meet the needs of current demands? if we had medical for all and were able to provide decent service for all, we'd likely need to quadruple the number of healthcare workers...
it's easy to have high minded ideals about this stuff, it's much harder and murkier to get into the real world details and the real world consequences of 'improvement' in society.
if you passed medicare for all tomorrow, the medical system would collapse because it wouldn't be able to meet the demand. people would be waiting years for basic checkups, instead of months they wait now. my PCP books appointments six months in advance.
True, but society can be structured in a way that life is not 3 missed payments away from an existential crisis.
I think it takes much less but if only a quarter of the citizens get decent service then that's not a good society.
True. That's why the best have to think about it, instead of how to deny health insurance claims to increase quarterly profits.
society is already structured that way.
but you can't convince people who don't believe it isn't, that it is, because they are retards who lack basic life-skills and refuse to learn them.
what you want is a fool-proof society, and well, since most people are fools, that's never going to work.
no amount of universal anything will help the woman I saw this morning who was 60lbs overweight and ordered 4 pumps of syrup in her extra large latte. she's fucking herself far harder than any 'society' could.
Maybe more individual connections. If life is good, a suggar rush doesn't have to offer the same fulfillment.
if her 200K+ salary isn't a good life? then what is?
maybe it's not about good life, maybe it's just that she doesn't give a fuck about health or fulfillment, and does what feels good to her in the moment and has and will forever live her life that way, and she will tell the doctor to fuck off when he tells her she has to lose weight or face serious illnesses.
some people are just shit people their entire lives, by their own active choices. here on lemmy, though, you're only allowed to be guilty of that if you vote republican or something. i wonder if the lady in the coffee line is democrat or republican, and how she would be a 'suffering from the oppression of the system' in one case, and 'deserving of her misery' in the other?
A life that doesn't need the suggar rush.
That's likely how she lives. The structure of society determines if she grew up longing for suggar or if she longed for a walk. A good society can make up for plenty of resources.
That's the usual team thinking. If we wouldn't leave the media to the elite we should have more nuanced conversations.
'nothing is anyone's fault, we are all victims of society/media elite. nobody can make their own choices'
Does that also apply to you? are you nothing more than a hapless victim? are the 'media elite' forcing you to write these comments on lemmy? or is that the 'structure of society' that forces you to type internet comments?
maybe you're just a bot though.