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Been a long time Debian user but with the recent AI decision I am planning on moving on so anyone have an anti-AI recommendations? I understand its being used in the kernel as well but are there any distros taking a full anti-AI approach to the parts of the code they control?

Since folks seem a little confused on what I am referring to here is the mailing list page regarding the use of gen ai without disclosure vote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/08/msg00360.html

Phoronix article on it: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Votes-Responsible-AI-Use

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They just recently did something bad.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

What did they do? All I saw was them talk and do democracy. All of that is allowed from my side. I don't think they incorporated any AI stuff (yet). At least I'm not aware of anything?!

[–] kbal@fedia.io 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They decided to take a vote on whether or not to "Ban LLM contributions" where the proposed policy wasn't all that well thought out, and ended up settling on a subsequent proposal which was even worse, enshrining in official policy the standard that LLM contributions are just fine actually and don't even need to be disclosed. The governance system, in this case, failed spectacularly. The contributors they will lose as a result of this are in my view likely to be more valuable ones than those they'd have lost had the vote gone the opposite way. It's substantially worse than having done nothing at all. It does not inspire confidence in the future of Debian, and is enough to have many of us looking around to see what alternatives might exist.

[–] scott_guertin@fosstodon.org 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

@kbal @WorkingPie @hendrik Banning LLM contributions would be, at best, a symbolic gesture about a heavily politicized topic. For a team like debian, the concern should be about the quality of the contribution not what tooling was used.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yes. And it goes further than that: Maintainability should also be a concern to maintainers. Doing good in the world is what pretty much all Free Software community projects are trying to achieve. They have to deal with licensing issues... It's complicated.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I think democracy is a good thing. Full stop.

It ain't easy though. Not even for the Debian community. But what's the alternative? Some corpo distro? They're going to adopt AI as well. And benevolent dictator might be alright... Yet, I personally still prefer a democracy. Even if it's difficult. Sometimes voting results are sub par. But we need to deal with that, not drop it once the first difficulty arises?! What kind of strategy is that? I don't think anyone is getting anywhere if they just keep dropping everything once they're faced with problems.