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[–] RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He didn't get rich from being smart.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I assume he got rich how most people get rich, luck and being a sociopath.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 79 points 2 days ago (2 children)

also having a lot of money to start out with helps

[–] Obituarykidney@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And an apartheid era emerald mine

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And also by being a vaporware scam artist. Thunderf00t on YouTube has a whole collection of videos showcasing Musk's whole repertoire of bullshit.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

yea..... that's pretty much all Thunderfoot posts about nowadays.... he hella fell off, for multiple reasons. But like, a decade ago he used to talk about scam kickstarters, atheism, interesting science topics, etc. And then in those debunking science videos he would bring the math and receipts that made it fun to watch... But then in the past 5 years it's just been Elon... nearly every video is about Elon. It's obsessive.

And tbf, that's not the only ick around Thunderfoot. I mean, he did kinda get his start during the Anti-SJW culture war shit doing anti-femisist ragebait videos. Basically occupied the same spaces as Sargon, Bearing and GradeAunderA.... and he's never really "grown" out of that, or addressed it, let alone apologized for it. He harps on Elon, and sometimes Trump/AlexJones/StevenCrowder but he's never really talked about how he and his ilk helped bring them about.

[–] mecen@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Not to mention that he milks this content to extreme, he can say things which would take 1 minute in 10

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

His latest video was exploring 'anti-baking soda' as a potential novel way to do CO2 capture at scale.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fvxNmStSC3M

He also 'got his start' before Anti-SJW youtube was a thing. His first series that popped off, back in the day, the day being 2008ish, was "Why do People Laugh at Creationists?'.

I don't know that he ever ... explicitly collabed with Sargon or any of those guys, but yeah he did exist in roughly the same genre-space, around the GamerGate era of i dunno, 2013 to 2015, ish?

While he has covered Elon a lot, thats because he started calling bullshit on Elon's nonsense since way, way before that was common... he's been tooting his own horn a bit, following around 10 years of Elon's trolls telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about, and well, it turned out he did.

He literally has a personal grudge against Elon Musk.

For all his faults, he is one of the oldest, OG youtubers, since damn near day 1, who is also still around, and hasn't imploded.

His first vid is 19+ years old, so, 2007ish, and its calling out GWB as a war mongering liar.

All that being said, if you want a more recent youtube channel thats basically just mostly been tearing Musk to shreds, with science: Common Sense Skeptic.

By 'more recent' I mean they've only been around for 5 or 6 years, I think.

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Was unaware of much of that; how disappointing. That being said, what I've watched about Musk was informative.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Mostly inherited wealth, but also those things.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A lot of it has to do with over-promising and under-delivering. The rest is marketing.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm hearing 'once you have money do.....'

Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from? Pray, tell - what do they come for?

Before that is even a factor you must either be first - with research and development ... and manufacturing... and distribution... or better. Or cheaper! Or able to undercut the competition.

Of the things mentioned... I seem to be struggling to find the element lacking a substantial financial investment.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from?

They're not all gullible. A lot of VC types are obsessive gamblers, they'll throw money at anything that sounds like it might have a high return.

Pray, tell - what do they come for?

That's where the marketing comes in. Elon is pretty good at selling these big ideas, making them sound futuristic and world-changing. He not only sells those ideas to VCs, but also to the government. A lot of his businesses have pulled in substantial government contract money. The public rarely gets any return from those tax dollars.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

VC won't give you the time of day if you lack a product or platform. This isnt go-fund-me or r/wsb. VC appear to bet big but are frequently pretty well informed and diversified. Their big bets aren't much from their prospective... and frequently will be the first to squeeze "their due" from a failing venture.

I dont see how Elon makes a good example for this. If anything it supports what I said:

Elon is wealthy. He has a platform. He has shit he's bought and is reselling snake oil from those things. He's not poofing something from nothing.