Work Reform

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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

Our Goals

Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.

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Profit over people is a failed system (lemmy.today)

submitted 1 week ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/workreform@lemmy.world

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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a sign of someone lacking a good argument and trying to hide it behind insults.

No, it's a sign of someone arguing with a person who refuses to see reason (i.e., bad faith), who is no longer willing to repeat himself by restating the things he already said that were ignored and mischaracterized...

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you have a good argument, let your argument stand. When people don't have a good argument they stand on insults.

who is no longer willing to repeat himself by restating the things he already said that were ignored and mischaracterized

So instead of defending their argument they're insulting the people who disagree with them to try to make them go away? That is exactly what I said. If you think the counter argument is invalid to the point that you're not going to address it you could just not reply, it's even easier than trying to insult the person and making your argument look weak as a result.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

If you have a good argument, let your argument stand.

Usually, yes. But that doesn't apply when the person you're arguing with is doing so in bad faith.

When people don't have a good argument they stand on insults.

That's literally all that Sanctus was relying on throughout this entire thread.

So instead of defending their argument they're insulting the people who disagree with them to try to make them go away? That is exactly what I said.

No, that's what Sanctus was doing. And rational people have no obligation to try to reason with others who are being irrational and disingenuous.