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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wrote a thing a decade or more ago I can't find now, about the early history of Vox's "explainers". They were literally wanting to replace Wikipedia as a go-to.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

The Economist pioneered that strategy of teaching 22 year olds to sound like experts to distracted executives and middle-managers. I think their standards are above Vox's and definitely Vox Future Perfect's (eg. I don't think The Economist would have let SBF's private foundation hire them to write a profile of SBF).

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i read a bit about that. i couldn't find quotes from the site employees saying they were trying to be wikipedia, so i didn't mention it because id have had to digress. but almost everyone who talked about the launch mentioned their weirdass card system for linking other articles, and that it was wikipedia like. and all the descriptions sounded AWFUL, like it would just be throwing useless rotating shit at you all the time

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

there's this: https://nymag.com/news/features/ezra-klein-2014-2/

While Klein is being circumspect about the operational details of Project X, he suggests that breaking-news squibs could be very short and attached to constantly updated background articles, a bit like Wikipedia entries written by professional journalists. Long features might be regularly freshened up.

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

especially amusing considering this, published only nine months after vox launched. not sure how much objective resource building the professional journalism would be buying you there, ezra

https://deadspin.com/46-times-vox-totally-fucked-up-a-story-1673835447/

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

ah but if you assume a perfectly spherical polity of uniform density in a vacuum at absolute zero,, klein will still be wrong

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ezra Klein so centrist, he could both-sides a Moebius strip

[–] rhamph@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is, an Ezra Klein bottle

[–] istewart@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

isn't that what the youth use to make jenkem

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] rhamph@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I registered just so I could make this very important joke. Hi!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago

commitment to the bit

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah, it was so inept and un wikilike that you would hardly believe it, but they honestly thought it would compete.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

At one point Yudkowsy raised money for Arbital, "an attempted successor to Wikipedia and/or Tumblr and/or peer review" Cw attempts to suck up to J.K. Rowling, Elon Musk, John Paulson

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

Didn't one of the Arbital head honchos have a psychotic episode after writing unhinged rants about rationality dojos making superhumans?

[–] istewart@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

well, seems like that didn't pan out, but I still have hope for my attempted successor to the automobile and/or trigonometry and/or Leonard Nimoy