BioMan

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[–] BioMan@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

I didn't recall it in 2027, just in the afterward of 2040. I took it as another weird idiosyncrasy of the particular authors, but I guess this is evidence that it's been a private shibboleth among the In The Know Central Types for a while and they just think its obvious to the point its leaking out into public documents...

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

So, this is something a little different, and I almost think it's worth a top level post. It's not directly about our friends the Rationalists, the current delusional billionare vortex infesting the US government with religious psychosis, or any of that. It's an analysis of some collaborative fiction and what it tells us about the zeitgeist behind the mythological core of singulatarian/endless-progress thought.

Anyone here ever hear of the Orion's Arm universe collaborative worldbuilding project? https://www.orionsarm.com/

I, for one, love it. Single weirdest and most expansive scifi worldbuilding thing ever, I think. It seems to have been founded by some old-school extropian types around the turn of the millennium. It is bonkers. Click through links on pages, start here, do a random walk: https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-topic/45b170f9e0941 .

It's ultimately structured kind of like the SCP wiki but from before wikis were a thing, an utterly enormous interlinked compendium of encyclopedia style articles about a 10,000+ year future history of the post-singularity "Terragen sphere" expanding outwards at the speed of light. A few key figures have exerted editorial control to enforce an approximate history and a set of core ideas to keep it coherent. There have been retcons at multiple points to bring things into coherence, some of which I will get to later because they actually tell you something fascinating.

Rather than point out my favorite parts of it though, going through it, I have noticed something.

Early work was typically extropian-optimistic and exuberant. Immortal Transhumans and uplifted animals and ahuman AIs and robots expanding through the universe near the speed of light and diversifying and building interweaving empires, wormhole networks. Six successive singularities that become available to intelligent systems that pass the previous one, each one of which renders the intellect past it incomperehensible to those at lower levels, with the highest ones dependant on multiple stars converted into computronium linked by wormholes into massive processors.

But you can tell the work is a palimpsest. Newer stuff superimposed over older. Retcons occasionally not quite erasing the old. And you can tell the whole project has been slowly slowly taking a turn. Early work is SUPER extropian, SUPER libertarian, and SUPER weirdo-esoteric. Only people forged in 1980s Extropianism would invent the Tranquility Calendar as the core timekeeping method of the project, time measured from the apollo 11 landing with months of the year named after scientists and philosophers. The 12 greatest high-singularity powers are literally called the Sephirotic empires. It makes no bones about its exuberant transcendant idea of progress and expansion.

But something strange has happened over time. Over time, the authors seem to have realized the fundamental contradiction of a world in which this endless expansion and consumption and rebuilding of the universe in your image is possible. People call it the Fermi paradox but its not a paradox, its an observation: if it were possible to expand through the universe, why hasnt something already expanded here? Early work had more aliens, more high weirdness that was not terragen. But I can track down different examples of the galactic map - it has narrowed down the map of 'high energy emission civilizations' (things exuberantly using the energy of whole stars like the terragen sphere) from many to 2 in our galaxy, and the whole universe is now mostly 'dead' - most other galaxies do not have high energy civilizations, and there are multiple ancient 'optimized galaxies' that are stagnant, things expanding like the terragen sphere visible over cosmological distances are super rare and they even saw one vanish. Works involving aliens have started taking on an almost lovecraftian tone, evidence of erased ruins on planets only visible in vague impressions in the mantle, an ancient slow-liviging civilization with evidence of terrible secrets from millions of years in the past that they refuse to talk about or risk terrible consequences (the Muuh Taboo), civilizations that dont vanish ossifying into something that does not expand like their optimistic early ideas. Factions looking at all of this, going dark, and launching stealth seeds at the speed of light to other galaxies because they think the Terragen sphere is doomed.

With all this, recent retcons and recent writings are starting to take on a tinge of almost cosmic horror. Here you have this optimistic exuberent explosion of posthumanity, looking out into a universe that is otherwise almost dead and full of strange old things and wondering why the rest of the universe doesn't look like them, what is going to go wrong to destroy them just like must happen to others.

This trajectory seems intrinsic to any singulatarian, endless-progress ideology. It always has to come to grips with the fact that the universe just doesn't look like the kind of place where their ideas would actually work, and they have to posit weird things - the Great Filter, Mass-Effect style reapers, super weird transubstantiation out of this universe - to keep it going. All this optimism must eventually always collapse, into paranoia and despair or insanity. Since if you assume that you CAN keep progressing and expanding, that you DO have unlimited potential power, it means something even more powerful is waiting, threatening you, trying to stop you. I find this FASCINATING.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 5 points 22 hours ago

https://futurism.com/future-society/leopold-aschenbrenner-ai-investor-buy-galaxies

According to a new scoop from The Wall Street Journal, the 24-year-old former OpenAI employee wanted to buy entire cosmic realms after he got rich off of AI — as in, yes, galaxies of stars and planets like our Milky Way, or the neighboring Andromeda.

This is something that he’s reportedly been telling people, completely unprompted, at San Francisco dinner parties for years. The way Aschenbrener explained it, advances in AI would soon enable humanity to unlock unlimited resources and colonize distant planets. After that, conquering parts of the universe would be a triviality.

This was a serious and imminent enough possibility, in his mind, that Aschenbrenner said he planned to save money so he could buy galaxies in the future. He even apparently promised to buy a galaxy for his wife, Anthropic chief of staff Avital Balwit. Love conquers all.

Still searching for an archive of the ultimate source https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/situational-awareness-leopold-aschenbrenner-ai-fund-4dbb00a4

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 4 points 22 hours ago

Working in academia I have close friends who were born all over the world. A good friend of mine from Iran has told me that the two things he has read from Egan that take place in Iran - this novel, and a short story in a recent collection in which the main character is an afghan refugee woman trying to go through higher education - capture the essence of life in Iran better than any other english-speaking work he has ever read, to the point he was questioning Egan's Australian origin to me.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 3 points 22 hours ago

no, to BE jupiter

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 4 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

https://nypost.com/2026/08/26/business/leopold-aschenbrenner-promised-to-buy-wife-galaxy-then-his-45b-hedge-fund-blew-up/

AI savants are known for their bold predictions. Leopold Aschenbrenner, the so-called “Nostradamus of AI,” took things to another level, reportedly promising his future wife he would someday buy her not a yacht or a mansion, but a galaxy. The 24-year-old German-born wunderkind married the chief of staff to Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei earlier this month.

Aschenbrenner signed the paperwork for the emergency sale early Thursday morning before heading to Carmel, Calif., for his wedding that weekend, according to the Wall Street Journal. One speaker reportedly thanked Griffin “for making it all possible,” while another guest gushed about Aschenbrenner’s promise to someday buy his new wife a galaxy... Buying a chunk of universe had been on Aschenbrenner’s mind for years, according to the article, with the investor repeatedly mentioning the idea to incredulous friends.

Aschenbrenner did a stint for Sam Bankman-Fried’s FTX Future Fund and stayed with his now-wife, Avital Balwit, at the 600-acre Bahamas resort where FTX executives lived.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 4 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

...Is this space property rights thing a new big deal in the community?

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

tim taylor voice Oh no...

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For more than a decade now Egan has been enthusiastically taking the piss at the rationalists and singulatarians. For more than 20, he has been gently making vague fun of them, or calmly including stuff in his stories that flatly contradict them without commentary in a way you can tell he's influenced to do so by them.

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 12 points 3 days ago

I would prefer they turn them off

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago

Didn't one of the Arbital head honchos have a psychotic episode after writing unhinged rants about rationality dojos making superhumans?

[–] BioMan@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, true, but that's true of most secular cults in America and Europe.

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