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I think AI won't save us here, our base is broken. The internet is kind of shattered, most of the pages on the wild have broken and even wrong links. Divs doings the work of buttons, the semantics are totally lost. This, at least for me, feels like a good view point on what we can fix first, and with luck have a better internet.

All feedback is welcome.

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[–] ventilcheck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

not a web dev. If I did want to make some minimal fast loading pages that don't look awful, is there a decent framework out there that will do the styling? A bit of html is fine but learning CSS is just not on my to do list.

[–] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

If we're talking just text content with not really any interactive elements (beyond a navigation menu), then look into "static site generators".

They allow you to write your blog posts or whatever in Markdown. You can pick out a theme. And then they'll generate HTML+CSS+JS, which you can push onto a web server.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Saying you want to make a web page without learning css is like saying you want to play basketball without shooting hoops. Learn CSS.

[–] Shin@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

Depends on how much do you want to tradeoff on this.

The "easiest" way will always incur in some extra files, or unused shite. When I started, Bootstrap were the only acceptable thing, yesterday were Tailwind, and soon will be "what the AI spits on your face"...

So, a custom styling will always be "best options", but this depends on your level of understanding on the web, and if CSS isn't on your bucket list, leave for the ones that have this on the bucket list.

(Sorry for not having a silver bullet for this)

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

HTMX is pretty good. It gives you markup that extends HTML for things like async loading, and incorporates some features that you'd otherwise have to do using Javascript or CSS.

[–] Shin@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

My "to go" tool of the day is Alpine.js, fills a similar void, but the focus is on the client side, the botton idea is the same.

[–] Mora@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

Not sure what you mean with loading pages, but maybe you should look into classless CSS for a minimal look. One of my favorites is Water.css when I just want to have something other than the browser default HTML styling, but there are many more.