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Self hosting our budget with Actual has been a game changer for my partner and I. No other budget app really worked for us but this was super easy and the PWAs really make a difference.
for me personally, Firefly III works much better and it works with importing from my bank
Glad to hear people like it because I thought it was really cool....
...But not having that European easy bank import option and having to manually download your sheets and import them is probably why I didn't stick to it very well...
...but then again it imported those sheets like magic so there's that!
Since the last big update you can enable experimental support for enable banking, which support quite a lot of European banks!
Oh sorry, what I meant was there's a standard to do that with European banks, yeah, but US banks don't have it, so you gotta manually download and import stuff. At least that's how it was last I checked.
Something fish, something fin? I forget what it's called, but there was some integration I found for, like, $2/month(?) and it worked pretty well from what I remember. I think this was around 2 or 3 years ago.
Every few years, I try installing Actual Budget, and have my wife compare it to how she uses YNAB, just to see if we can finally make the switch to fully self-hosted. Plus YNAB has become obsessed with new features and new customers while ignoring many of the issues that still haunt those with legacy knowledge of the platform. All while continuing to raise the price.
SimpleFIN, I currently use it and it works well
GoCardless or Enable Banking don't work? I see both on the Actual Budget website. One doesnt take new customers? Weird
I'll have to look again, I should have specified I'm in the US but it used some kinda integration that was common for EU banks but not US ones, so I had to import reports manually.
Oh, Simplefin does that. Really solid.
I had the same issue. Then I found https://sure.am/ . It has easy bank integration amongst others. Been using it for a bit now.
I looked quickly, but didn't see an answer. Does Sure.am let you download your transactions into something like Actual or Firefly-iii or is it all within the hosted platform? I saw an option to self host, but didn't see the integrations.
I'm trying to find something to pull into my firefly-iii instance and am currently abusing the Monarch API but it has some issues. I also wrote my own scrapers but they are fragile and I'd rather just integrate directly with plaid.
Maybe the website makes it hard to find, but it is completely self hostable. Here is their GitHub: https://github.com/we-promise/sure
Providers that are in the app are: Lunch Flow, Plaid, SimpleFIN and Enable Banking
You can also import directly raw CSV and others
The thing that really kills me with actual budget instead of firefly philosophy differences is that a "budget per month" app needs to have some flexibility with dates and categorization which I don't find in actual budget. At the very least, setting a different "beginning of the month".
I get paid on the 27th-30th of the month, that is my budget for the following month but according to actual budget, that is my budget for the month of money I have already spent. Likewise with bills, I transfer money to an account where all the bills automatically come out of after I get my paycheck, but those are bills coming out of the budget for the following month.
You can't budget with money you don't have yet... Especially for people with variable salaries (Belgium pays money for the days you bike to work, getting expenses paid back, etc...)
If I transfer my bills money on the 1st of the month (last possible day) and then before the 1st of the month the next month, then all metrics and budgeting for 2 months are fucked up and inaccurate with no way to fix it.
I switched the setting from “envelope budgeting” to “tracking budgeting” to address this. Budgeting based off what I anticipate making the following month. The Actual peeps will tell you that in envelope budgeting you should have enough money for the next month ahead of time so it’s working as designed. I get that, kinda, but tracking budgeting has just made more sense for me.
Game changer is a great way to phrase it. It's no exaggeration to say it changed my partner and my lives. It gave us the confidence to save for and buy a house. I've never felt more in control of my finances before.
I'm going to have to check this out!
I was using Wealthica before they started charging and Actual Budget + Simplefin is so much better. I'm really happy all my financial info is just mine and not exposed to any other company. The expense for Simplefin is worth it and minimal.
Would you mind sharing more about your experience with Simplefin? I've been looking to make the jump, but I've read a fair amount of feedback that seems to indicate it might not be worth it given issues with instability, inconsistency syncing, etc.
It'll be down to your bank's rules. My main bank and brokerage work flawlessly, sync everyday. My secondary bank and Amex need to be reauthenticated every week or two. So I just update those once a month. Just go on simplefin and run the 2FA plus some waiting.
It doesn't sync non-bank stuff, so there's some RRSP providers I just enter manually.
For $20 cad a year its fine. I wouldn't use it to track daily expenses unless you know everything will work. I do all my finances once a month so its fine for me.