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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Bostrom’s conclusion is that we should colonize the universe as soon as possible

Always funny how this sort of transhumanist utilitarianism was already argued against in sid meiers alpha centauri (1999) (also called SMAC).

"Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None, I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill."

CEO Nwabudike Morgan

It is prob interesting in general that so many transhumanist etc ideas are already in SMAC, which predates a lot of stuff. Shows how much of it was already science fiction before the various tescrealists came around and tried to give it the wrapper of being new actually scientific ideas.

(That ingame there also is the game mechanic where doing something turn n is always better than doing it turn n+x is also interesting, makes you wonder just how much of this all is video game thinking (the best strategy ingame is to be the human hive and to build as much cities as close together as possible as fast as possible (infinite city sprawl))).

[–] lurker@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bostrom’s conclusion is that we should colonize the universe as soon as possible

because colonialism has never caused any damage to any kind of ethnic group or environment whatsoever and has never resulted in any kind of horrific crime such as genocide and slavery. no sirree!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 9 hours ago

All of that is justified because of the almost infinite post humans living in the simulation in the future after all the colonization is done.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Greg Bear's Hull Zero Three depicts a generation ship that's

spoilerchock full of weaponry to basically sterilize any promising planet to ensure the cargo it carries is able to survive

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 9 hours ago

Time to add another book to the list.