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[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 75 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The whole point of the phrase is: When the poor have nothing left to eat, they will eat the rich.

It wasnt coined as a threat. It's a warning. The poor are already starving, and there is a limit.

And the thing is that 'rich' is not an intrinsic property, it's not genetic. When you eat the rich, everything they were hoarding - that which gave them the title 'rich' - becomes accessible. It doesn't disappear from the system like an MMO inventory.

Only after the starving poor eat the rich, will there be a path to a possible future without starvation.

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 7 points 1 day ago

If Elon dies, lots of his wealth will disappear as the stock price of his companies will drop. Not sure how much and if they will recover but, like it or not, he is a big part of the reason the stock market loves his companies.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When the rich are too rich there are ways, and when the poor are too poor there are ways.

Last winter we sold two girls and endured, and this winter, if this one my woman bears is a girl, we will sell again. One slave I have kept—the first. The others it is better to sell than to kill, although there are those who prefer to kill them before they draw breath. This is one of the ways when the poor are too poor.

When the rich are too rich there is a way, and if I am not mistaken, that way will come soon.

~ Pearl S. Buck, The Good Earth

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People have been theorizing (or fantasizing, rather) about the supposed collapse of the system since 1850, thinking it was soon then.

Guess it's soon enough for us to not see it in this lifetime either.

Aka, worthless.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's collapsed a bunch of times.

The sudden, often arbitrary, and devastating failures make up much of the case for why the system is bad.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Is the system bad? Sure.

Will a good system finally show up? Doubt.

Those collapses you mentioned haven't lead to a worthwhile system, have they?

Collapse is meaningless on its own.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Will a good system finally show up? Doubt.

People try new things. Sometimes those things work.

The problem isn't that ideas are floated and failed. It's that systems calcify around people in privileged positions.

Those collapses you mentioned haven’t lead to a worthwhile system, have they?

Economic models in 2026 are far more advanced and improved than ones from 1626

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Google Russia 1918 and keep reading.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ever since 1850? Geee, just two years after the Revolutions of 1848, I guess the peoples should never be appeased because they'll just want more and more!

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wasn't talking about the US 🤦

It's stupid how people just assume it's america if you don't specify.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? Spring of Nations didn't spread to the US in the slightest.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Then what are you talking about?

As for me, I'm referring to Marx and communist critiques of capitalism that have spanned several European countries in its inception which were then expanded by 20th century and modern communists who repeatedly said that collapse was imminent and inevitable.

That's been a consistent theme that hasn't changed since around 1850.

People keep going "oh yeah, it's really gonna collapse this time! There's gonna be real good change soon!" Nope. Bs. Historically inaccurate.

[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Then what are you talking about?

I'm running out of names for that advent, so here's the last one, I'm sorry but you're just too semantically demanding. So here goes - Springtime of the Peoples

As for the rest. Are you seriously claiming that there were no uprisings or revolutions since 1850? Brother, I'm sure you can do some better research.

Or are you looking for something more spectacular, the full-blown worldwide revolution, and anything smaller than that is just too futile for your taste.