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Palm oil is a butter substitute. Every baked product at the grocery store that used to be made with butter is now made with palm oil, because it is cheaper. Palm oil is made up of long highly-saturated fatty acids that cause it to be solid at room temperature, giving it physical properties very similar to butter, making it suitable as a substitute. However saturated fatty acids are bad for your health. Butter is also saturated fat and is also somewhat bad, but palm oil is much worse because the varieties of fatty acids it contains are much different from animal fat fatty acids and the human body metabolizes them differently, so they have a much higher impact. Similar physical properties but worse health properties!

It is nearly impossible to find frozen baked goods that are still made with butter. This pie claims to be made with healthy ingredients, and specifically touts its butter content, but it conveniently omits mentioning palm oil entirely. Since palm oil appears first on the ingredients list before butter, that means there is more of it. Possibly almost the entire "butter-like" fraction of the pie consists of palm oil.

This pie alone contains 400% daily value saturated fat, which is terrible for long-term health. I love apple pies and I was planning to eat this pie as my sole food over the course of 2 days for my One-Meal-A-Day (OMAD), but I'm not willing to risk eating palm oil. Thanks for nothing for getting my hopes up, pie box!

  • traditional wholesome German ingredients like palm oil
  • palm oil - just the way grandma used to make at home
  • contains memories of butter

I'm sure someone below will mention how palm oil is also bad for the environment and bad for the farmers and bad for the economy. I will only be answering questions about the film Rampart.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This shit drives me up a wall. I try to only buy peanut butter made out of peanuts, so for years now I’ve been buying “natural” peanut butter. I recently noticed however that 100% “natural” doesn’t mean shit as all the natural brands are loaded with palm oil. I honestly might have to start making my own.

It sucks because my family treats me like an insane person when I look at the ingredients and nutrition of the food stuff we buy. Food culture in the US is awful, just awful.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah it's awful.

I actually found the best peanut butter at a local store. They have a machine that looks like a drink dispenser but it's full of different kinds of peanuts- you grab a jar and push the button and it grinds the peanuts into peanut butter right there in front of you. Resulting machine looks something like this.
There's a few different options like plain, honey, spicy, etc. I just get the plain one and stir in some salt when I get home.

If you let it sit for a while it separates (the oil comes to the top and solids sink) but you just stir it up and it's fine.

Funny thing is- flavor is actually a good bit better than most of what you get in the jar. And there's zero bullshit, just peanuts and salt to taste which are all you need for great peanut butter.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Natural doesn't mean jack shit in a food context.

Unless you are buying fresh roasted unsalted peanuts crushed directly in front of you in a peanut crusher, you're getting shit.: you're getting hydraulically fractured peanut meal which transforms the proteins, then they separate out the valuable peanut oil and replace it with soybean oil or palm kernel oil.