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Shoot the top folk and lock up the rest for life. Only way out.
That sort of incarceration mindset is half the problem.
However, locking them in a morality/social skills school/rehabilitation center until they demonstrate they understand the harms they've done and are truly repentant, which could be life, I can get behind.
That's what all incarceration should be.
Until the next MAGAt is elected and pardons them all. You know, like the Jan 6’ers.
Which is why the only real solution is to just kill all protesters. Life sentences don't prevent pardons, and really it's more efficient anyways. Surely that won't ever backfire---
Or we could deal with the underlying socioeconomic conditions to lead to MAGAt bullshit.
In this instance perhaps both are appropriate. They’ve shown beyond a reasonable that they’re irredeemable.
You do understand the exact same proof "beyond a reasonable" you're citing is no different from that being used to convince millions that all immigrants are all "murderers and rapists" right?
You do understand how comparitively tame and absolutely pathetic Jan 6th was as far as attempted "coups"/popular revolts go, right?
Tell me how your way 💯 guarantees we don’t get a repeat of this bullshit. You can’t, because it doesn’t.
Death and violence breed resentment and resistance. Your way 💯 guarantees we do get a repeat of this bullshit.
"Kill them all!!!!" Only works in Hollywood. Grow up.
Look at what they’re doing now. Pulte in charge to tamper with elections. Blatant lies about EVERYTHING. If they aren’t purged we won’t be having this conversation because they’ll execute us for challenging them. The time for weak ass pussy shit has come and gone, and it didn’t work. We need to remove the cancer permanently.
You're conflating 2 different things.
The cancer metaphor is very apt. Yes, the cancer needs to be treated ASAP and no "weak ass pussy shit" is going to suffice. It requires a very bloody and invasive surgery to treat it. The current treatment plan is placebos, homeopathic bullshit and a prayer or two and of fucking course that's not doing anything.
The discussion is about what happens in the hypothetical after treatment to make sure it doesn't re-appear. Staying on chemotherapy any longer than is absolutely necessary is going to result in fun new cancers that are just as deadly, if not moreso. And some significant lifestyle changes are going to need to occur to prevent exposure to those same initial carcinogens.
The "purge them all once I have power" and "imprison all challengers" rhetoric is one of those carcinogens. You don't have that power, and unless you change tactics or join the fascists you likely never will.
Once you do wrestle power away from the fascists it's important to start dealing with the problem from the top and make sure the bottom isn't panicking and trying to take that power back. That requires some sort of path to redemption and a different mindset and messaging than what you currently have.
Treat them as the Confederates should’ve been treated. Execute the top and keep the bottom on an extremely tight leash for a couple of generations.
"Tight leash" builds resentment and retaliation especially with any of that "sins of your father" kind of bullshit.
Fully agreed though that the Civil war was the worst case clusterfuck of "tight leash" rhetoric with zero follow through, zero consequences for unrepentant leaders, not having a plan for when the war went cold, and not dealing with traitors like Andrew Johnson.
Bottom line is that these folks need to pay for what they’ve done. No “oopsie daisy let’s move on” bullshit. There needs to be a reckoning and they need to feel the pain they’ve inflicted, along with penalties on top of it.
Yes.
No.
The people responsible can only die once. Reality does not allow them to "feel the pain they've inflicted". Spreading that remaining "debt" to forced conscripts and associates doesn't balance that budget, it creates new debts that will eventually need to be paid.
Great. Then let THEM be the bigger people who forgive that debt. I’m done being “the adults” while they act with impunity. The double standards must end; time to make the rules and consequences equal for both sides.
Great. Then actually do something about that. None of this matters so long as we have no power.