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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Drop speed limits back down to 50mph and you've got a deal

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

You need 30kmph for it to be safe, and I'm talking proper 30 kmph, not "the sign says 30 but the road is straight and I feel quite safe being two drinks in" 30 kmph

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Sounds like a win/win.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

forgive me, but i have to ask. how does speed affect the type of seat that is used?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

had an 83 f100. the first time I took a turn too fast I got thrown into the passenger seat.

I'm lucky it was a back road and I had legs long enough to still press the brake enough to slow down enough to get back into the driver seat and carry on.

wasn't long after that and I got a newer truck with bucket seats.

sure, benches were fun and easy to ~~fuck~~sleep on but the safety trade off made it an easy choice to make.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm sure it had one, once.

keep in mind this was an f100. it had lights, wheels, a windshield, and a steering wheel. I was lucky it had a radio and heat. zero power steering.

so when you turned, you had to put everything into the turn. that day I just didn't have enough for the turn and to stay seated.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 minutes ago

Yeah I had a manual steering car before, it sucks. I had a wrist cast and almost at the end of the cast time I was turning the steering and felt the bone crack again.

[–] VOwOxel@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not a car expert, but i presume that actual seats provide more stability when turning/ more safety when having an accident. Both of which gets worse when speed increases.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

that was my first thought too, but i dont recall ever taking corners that sharp at 60 or 50 mph.

edit - oop i missed the part you said better safety for crashes, that sounds reasonable, and im curious about how its more safe.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Modern cars bend and flex during a crash, and they do it in such a way to keep occupants safer. Bench seats can't do that as well. They also don't work as well with modern air bags and seatbelts, and they often lack headrests.
Without a headrest a relatively low speed impact basically snaps your neck and whips your head into the dashboard.

You want your seat to basically hug you and lock you into place. There's a reason racecar seats look like they do.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Car accidents. All collision types become more likely as speed increases, and injuries increase with that - not chance of injury, total injuries. Bench seats were abandoned for bucket seats because bench seats are objectively more deadly when analyzing car crashes.

You need to limit the speed a vehicle can go if you're going to make unsafe designs acceptable again, otherwise you're just gambling with lives for fun cabin interiors.