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your first link is just a labyrinth of uncited claims. the actual papers are at least 3 clicks deep. the fact that you cited it at all speaks to a weak understanding of what i have been saying this whole time. in fact, none of the links you provided are scholarly articles.
if you can't explain the methodology for the conclusions youre parroting, i'm not going to bother being the one who actually finds all your citations and their methodologies.
i will tell you that i know that poore-nemecek 2018 is the basis of a lot of pretty specious claims, and hayek 2014. so when you come back, with actual evidence, please know that i'll be dismissing improperly combined lca data outright.
What does LCA mean here?
People are mixing estimates with different methodologies and assumptions? That doesn't seem very scholarly
life cycle assessment. if you read the references in poore-nemecek 2018, you will find that they didn't even gather the studies themselves. they are doing a meta study of meta studies. when you read their sources, those papers talk explicitly about the problem of combining disparately methodized study data, but then go on to do so. poore-nemecek doesn't even acknowledge this faux pas.
Ahh meta-meta-analysis! That makes sense - something we see used in nutrition too frequently
Unrelated, but since you appear to be well read - can you recommend papers on red meat ecology and sustainability? It's not a area i've read with any depth, but I am curious.
Another open vexation I have is what a sustainable plant based farm with no animal inputs or fertilizer inputs would look like, if it's even possible. From what I could gather it's not doable with no examples (they import fertilizer)
I really can't recommend any papers. I don't trust any of them that make strong claims one way or another.