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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 144 points 1 day ago (12 children)

The best thing about this protein craze is almost everyone gets enough anyways and the body excretes excess protein so the cheapest and easiest way to get extra protein is to drink a gymbro's piss.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 9 points 21 hours ago

If you’re older this is not true. Near all of the older people i know need protein supplemented.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its sterile and I like the taste.

[–] zer0hour@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know this is all jokes, but just to stop the perpetual piss is sterile thing, it's absolutely not sterile

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 6 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, a lot of people suffer from bladder infections. Would increase their life quality if it was indeed sterile.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Do people actually believe that?

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I’ve read this stated before and I don’t see how it’s true.

  • us RDA is based on weight and we’re a fat country. It looks like I’d need to eat 5 chicken breasts/day. Unless there’s a lot of hidden protein in my diet, That never happens
  • most of this is backlash against gymbro recommendation with much higher protein levels to build muscle, that’s not really evidence based. Sure the specific levels are questionable but it does makes sense that some amount more is better: maybe I need to eat 6 chicken breasts in a day if I started exercising . That also never happens
[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 22 hours ago

My doc says I need to build muscle mass to fix my shoulder and protein helps so I'm one of the few who needs it and I don't really buy into the craze.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 21 hours ago

I know you think you're trying to make piss-drinking happen, but it's not going to happen.

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I did the math recently and I think that in order to hit what the WHO considers the minimum safe protein for my weight, I would have to eat WAY more, like twice what I typically do.

This may be a vegan-specific problem.

[–] jumponboard@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

It's not a vegan problem. It's a food selection problem.

I'm vegan and I eat plenty of protein. More than most non vegans

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Beans and lentils are your friend.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Lemmy needs to know the difference between protein and amino acids in diet. All plants are protein.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago

They have protein but they're mostly composed of complex carbs like starch, fiber, and cellulose. Their actual protein content varies but in general it's much lower than legumes

If you're vegetarian or vegan and don't eat legumes, then you're probably not getting enough protein.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I may ask, what is your target grams per day of protein?

[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

According to this calculator I should be eating 53g protein per day.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

As someone who needs to lose weight, that calculator says my who minimum safe protein is 113 g/day. As a carnivore, I don’t see how I do this on most days.

I call bs on the claim that most of us get too much protein. Overweight people are less likely to and plant eaters are less likely to.

The muscle building community recommendations are based on insufficient evidence and are likely too high. I do believe those following them likely to get excessive protein their body can’t use but I don’t see how that generalizes to “most people”

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago

It says I should be eating between 67 and 200+ g of protein, because of how much I exercise it should probably be like 150+ and I'm definitely not eating enough protein.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Drink Bean smothies

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago

Uric acid wants to have a word.

[–] residentoflaniakea@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know you're joking but urine should not contain any protein in a healthy body.

[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 19 points 1 day ago

So you choose option #2? 😂

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

You make a surprisingly salient point, sir

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Only the nitrogen is excreted. The body converts the rest into glucose then fat. So the excess protein in everything is literally making us fatter and more unhealthy!

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

🤣 I do it to keep weight on so what puzzles me is people who drink protein drinks to lose weight. My diet plan is pretty simple (it's just a basic hierarchy of choices):

  • eat the option with the most fiber
  • that being equal, eat the option with the most protein
  • THAT being equal, eat the thing with the highest polyunsaturated fat
  • after that, eat the thing that tastes best and has the least uncomplicated carbohydrates
  • eat the thing with the least trans fat

I usually don't even get past #2 and very rarely past 3.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Protein makes you sated much more quickly than carbs, so a protein rich diet compliments losing weight.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

also causes flatulence, lower gut mobility, skews the microbiome.

I have significant concerns about the protein diet fad and the increase of colon cancer in younger people.

Sugar should be avoided, but a balanced diet is important.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Visceral fat is usually caused by protein deficiency, adding protein to the diet without any other changes to lifestyle or diet causes a reduction in visceral fat.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Visceral fat is usually caused by protein deficiency,

in cases of severe malnourishment.

I'm so done with the brah science in this thread.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

No....

There's numerous studies if you bothered to search. These off the top of the first search engine I try:

Huang G, Pencina K, Li Z, Apovian CM, Travison TG, Storer TW, Gagliano-Jucá T, Basaria S, Bhasin S. Effect of Protein Intake on Visceral Abdominal Fat and Metabolic Biomarkers in Older Men With Functional Limitations: Results From a Randomized Clinical Trial. J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2021 Jan 8;76(6):1084–1089. doi: 10.1093/gerona/glab007. PMID: 33417663; PMCID: PMC8140050.

Merchant AT, Anand SS, Vuksan V, Jacobs R, Davis B, Teo K, Yusuf S; SHARE and SHARE-AP Investigators. Protein Intake Is Inversely Associated with Abdominal Obesity in a Multi-Ethnic Population. J Nutr. 2005 May;135(5):1196-1201. doi: 10.1093/jn/135.5.1196. PMID: 15867303.

CK, Cooper BC, Toth MJ, Gastaldelli A, Arabshahi A, Barnes S. Effect of a daily supplement of soy protein on body composition and insulin secretion in postmenopausal women. Fertility and Sterility. 2007 Dec;88(6):1609–1617. doi: 10.1016/j.fertnstert.2007.01.061. PMID: 17412329.

Christie DR, Grant J, Darnell BE, Chapman VR, Gastaldelli A, Sites CK. Metabolic effects of soy supplementation in postmenopausal white and African American women: a randomized, placebo-controlled trial. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology. 2010 May 1;203(2):153.e1–153.e9. doi: 10.1016/j.ajog.2010.02.058. PMID: 20435291.

It's very well established that increased protein intake reduces abdominal fat in pretty much every population

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe good protein, though protein shakes are often going to come with extra calories and junk that most people don't need to add to their diet anyways.

Especially if they're using a milk base or adding chocolate/etc to make tastier shakes. It's pretty damn easy to drink a surprising amount of calories. Milk can be more calories than beer by volume, for example.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Nobody should be drinking those to lose weight, because weight lifting to the point of needing extra protein is very much a way to gain mass, and doing both at once(gain mass and slim up) is extremely hard. Weight lifting being the most obvious way someone might actually need extra protein.

Other exercise, outside of extreme situations, doesn't need extra-high protein intake, so it's just excessive. Especially for lower intensity exercise that someone looking to slim up should be doing more of.

Also with how much extra junk a lot of those protein powders/bars/etc come with, it's just ill advised. Sugar, cholesterol, carbs, etc. Some are really bad choices in general vs just eating a normal meal.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Losing fat is more about gaining muscle to increase base metabolism. Drinking protein shakes also causes a loss of visceral fat in the absence of any other changes

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not "more about" gaining muscle. It's purely about burning off more energy than you eat. Sure, that's easier with more muscle, but it's WAY easier to not eat 200+ calorie candy bars than it is burning 200 calories off, even with muscle.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No one is saying eat 200 candy bars lmao

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Correct, the 200 was the number of calories not the number of candy bars

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Vegetarians and especially vegans need to either supplement protein or make sure to eat lots of protein-rich stuff like chickpeas or lentils.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They need to eat regular foods that have a regular amount of protein.

Someone trying to eat 2000 calories per day and hit 100 grams of protein (a pretty high target) only needs 5g of protein per 100 calories. That includes things like lentils and beans, sure but it also includes things like peanut butter or broccoli (6g per 100 calories). Things like bread or pasta or most other wheat products (3.5g per 100 calories) are pretty close to begin with.

A peanut butter sandwich has about 8g of protein from the bread and 7g from the peanut butter. That's 15g of protein for 340 calories.

A slice of cheese pizza has 21g protein for 430 calories.

A can of beans has 25g protein for 420 calories.

A package of firm tofu has 32g protein for 280 calories.

Compare that to things like hot dogs (10g protein per 300 calorie hot dog), 80/20 hamburger (20g protein per 300 calorie serving), or breakfast sausage (11g protein per 270 calories), or bacon (10g protein per 170 calories), and it becomes obvious that trying to get 5g of protein per 100 calories isn't that much easier with meat compared with dedicated processed high protein foods (whether meat based, dairy based, egg based, or other plant based) of supplements.

For most people, just eating normal is fine. For those of us who lift weights and might want to maintain lower body fat, it takes more work, but even omnivores will tend towards isolated dairy protein rather than eating meat willy nilly.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Funny how you completely left out (sweet)potatoes, paprika, carrots and other vegetables with as low as 2g of protein per 100kcal (which may make up a big portion of a vegans intake) and meat with 15+g per 100kcal.

Wheat products being pretty close to begin with sounds nice but it still means they are too low on protein and those definitely make up a large portion of most peoples calorie intake.

I know people who ate bread and spaghetti bolognese every day during uni, and just leaving out the minced meat would definitely drop them below recommended levels.

I get what you mean though, my comment was misleading, you probably wont have a deficiency when eating normally (which means diversely, so still paying attention), but I would still say it is way easier to hit the recommended levels with meat, they just dont need to think about it, most people eat way more meat than necessary anyway. Also, spending some time thinking about your eating habits and nutrition intake to get a balanced diet is way healthier than simply supplementing protein, I did not mean that thats what I recommend.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Wrong. Plants are protein. They eat some beans and grains that have lysine and methionine amino acids which are lower in plant proteins.

Those protein powders the brahs eat are from plants.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

A lot of the bro powders use whey protein which is a dairy product.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Plants are protein.

Are you high?

Those protein powders the brahs eat are from plants.

This is plain wrong. Most protein powders are not vegan, especially whey protein which is said to be the most bioavailable.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Brah, All living life on this planet is made of protein.

All protein is bioavailable and digested into amino acids, which are then used to build human protein. Most plants lack methionine and lysine, which is abundant in meats, but also some plants. Those tubs you buy can have as little as 20% whey protein, the rest is from plants like soybeans.

I get that people are Joe Rogan educated and like to read the brightly colored plastic tubs, but a little biochemistry won't hurt you, brah.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Its fascinating how much effort some people put into writing complete bullshit in a fancy way. Or maybe its a bot? Probably is...

But just to make sure noone parrots this bullshit: Carbohydrates, fat, minerals, water are all NOT protein and they make up a much larger fraction of most living organisms than protein. Just because most plants contains at least 1% protein doesnt mean it will satisfy the human need for it.