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"Hierarchy is needed for PCB fabrication!" (lemmy.world)
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I made a post on hierarchy a month ago but I have some more specific questions now.

I've been hit with the claim that mass production industries that are needed today would not be possible without a hierarchy. That due to regional limitations and the logistics of smartphone manufacturing, technology cannot be produced on the needed scale without a hierarchy of managers.

This is quoted in PCB fabrication, as well as other areas such as medicine and other mass produced goods.

It is also said that managers are needed for efficiency, though I don't understand that.

Because the anarchist movement, abolishing hierarchy, "runs counter" to the "global direction of humanity and progress", it is acclaimed to being "doomed to failure" and "idealist".

What would be the anarchist response to this? Would appreciate detailed responses and/or resources.

I want to improve my anarchist understanding

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[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But even if you're running a local system of apps and hardware, you still need to be able to manufacture the parts needed for said electronic devices.

I didn't think PCB was something people could make themselves, that is cool.

[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Manufacture or scavenge or trade. There were initiatives to build local chips, too, those just fail because existing fabs are just too good; also because when you really need a job done, you often do not even need any electronics. One common place where we all rely on it inevitably is access to this internet - which it pretty much a manifestation of capitalist unifying action; totally expected to require us to comply somehow, also totally avoidable, if we choose to (although autonomous zones are better off not ignoring stuff just randomly).

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you in favour of abolishing the internet?

[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

No I'm not. It's just important to be able to do a personal action if you choose to IMO.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Also check out mechanical computing while you are at it.