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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

What is it with americans putting everything in jello? That's just gross. And then they make jokes about fries with vinegar (which is just ketchup without tomato (edit: and sugar)).

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It was a mid 20th century fad. Aspic had been very expensive and time consuming for a long time and so was considered a high status food.

Then in the post WW2 era we had immense prosperity the likes of which we hadn't seen before, not just because we were the largest industrialized nation to not be bombed to rubble and had ramped up our industrial capacity, but also because after the great depression and world wars, this was the first time that our average citizen got to experience the full boon of the second industrial revolution. Even better, the new deal (a massive government program meant to end the great depression, increase food supply, and generally just improve the quality of life) as well as the effects of food safety and purity laws and veterans benefits were all in full force.

People who had had a very difficult life suddenly owned a house, had domestic labor saving machines, time and energy to entertain, and modern mass produced industrial foods of quality we now would consider fit for human consumption. Many of these people didn't know how to cook with after 15 years of rationing. But not to worry! Modern advertising and marketing also came into being in this time. This is the era of the long form ad, and with it the idea that you could just print recipes on the side of ingredients and people would just try them.

So jello… in the early 20th century gelatin went from being something you have to spend a long time rendering out of bones yourself, using imprecise equipment like a wood fired stove, to an industrial food product you can buy for a few cents. All this came together for ad campaigns of weird savory and sweet and savory-sweet jello dishes, usually using other industrial foodstuffs from the same company like hot dogs, mayonnaise, and canned fruit and vegetables. And people who didn't know how to cook with these new foods and tools said sure and tried some of them, typically to serve at parties.

This is the equivalent of if suddenly you could buy lab grown lobster and sirloin for a buck or two a pound, and for a while everyone's poor as shit so they're stretching their beans as far as the can, but suddenly everyone is able to buy a house and have a few kids with plenty of money left over from 1 person working 20 hours a week. The people selling lobster are going to have to remind you that this is high quality food for cheap, and they have to teach you how to use it. It starts simple, roasted tails with butter, bisque, the classics. Then they start moving into weirder stuff like lobster burgers, before eventually getting into weird shit like lobster chocolate cake. And the weirdest thing here is it's actually more like if the lobster chocolate cake came pretty early and completely dominated the cultural mindset to the point where people think that the weird savory stuff was gross because lobster is a desert food that's sometimes used in traditional savory dishes.

Oh and the reason you keep seeing Americans talk about it is because we think it sounds gross as hell

This, exactly. It was a fad because it was almost unobtainable prior to that era.

We were here with our InstaPot chicken wings. Now it's air fryers and 'seed oil free' french fries.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Jello was a big thing in the 1960s and 70s. But now it's pretty much a regional thing. Oh sure you see it occasionally, but it's far from the dessert staple it once was in the US.

Your Great Grandmother was all in on it, but your Grandmother not as much. And the odds are good that your mother would need to watch a YouTube video or something to make anything even close.

My 2 Grandmothers were wildly different in their cooking skills. And they both grew up thought the Depression years. So you cooked with what you had, because that's all that you had.

One could make the most incredible sausages-- oatmeal sausages, blood sausages, various summer sausages and canned beef at home and from scratch without any recipe. But beyond that, it took a very good set of teeth to eat at her table. And forget about cookies or any kind of baked goods. Those she bought.

My other Grandmother was a classic little old Norwegian Lady. A 5-Star Michelin Chef should be that good. She made everything from scratch. Often on an old coal-fired cast iron cook stove and oven despite having a perfectly good electric stove. And the breads and pastries and cookies she would make! In a rural farm neighborhood filled with great cooks, she was considered the best baker of them all. And so many recipes. Church cookbooks galore. Carefully handwritten 3x5 cards filled a dozen metal boxes. Clipped newspaper and magazine recipes, each stored in photo books. And I never ever once saw her use any of them. Everything was in her head.

It was truly a travesty that my own Mother never learned how to cook or even cared about cooking. But, she could sew. And made most of our clothes growing up.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Its not an American thing, it's a Mormon thing. It had a very brief period of popularity outside of those freaks but yeah, I'd wager most Americans have never eaten Jell-O with something other than fruit in it.

I'd guess there's way more ketchup haters than people who even know the deliciousness of make vinegar, too. And "ketchup" here isn't just ketchup+vinegar, it's LOADED with sugar. I'm one of the ketchup haters.