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More (not so) fun facts:
54% of American adults read below a 6th grade level.
21% read below a 5th grade level, which is considered functionally illiterate.
High immigration numbers don't fully explain it either, as first gen immigrants only make up about 1/3 of those with low literacy.
Yeah, it ultimately boils down to the commodification of education, but it think there are also aspects of being allergic to anything perceived as elitism, and being terrified of accusations of discrimination.
I mean, holding everyone to the same basic standard isn't discrimination. Even if some people from marginalized backgrounds don't meet that standard. In fact, it's kinda racist to assume those people need the handicap, as if none of them can meet the basic standards unless they're lowered...
Amazing how you parlayed an undifferentiated critique of adult reading levels (one that specifically mentioned that immigration, i.e. "brown people", wasn't the cause of the low percentage) into an attack on affirmative action. If you knew what you were talking about/weren't being disingenuous, you'd know that "holding everyone to the same basic standard" is the goal of affirmative action. Because people of color often require higher credentials to receive attention at equal levels to less skilled yet less visually-ethnic applicants.
This and the previous, hyperbolic remark that you were "all but run off campus" because you were being a grammar nazi makes me believe it wasn't just the "grammar" that was the issue.
Potentially this user takes issue with affirmative action; it's hard to say. I read the comment you responded to as referring to the lowering of academic requirements for inner city public schools.
Thank you! It's literally a disservice to marginalized communities to assume "oh, they can't handle the same standard so we need to lower it for them." Aside from being racist.
It's funny how that commenter assumed I was talking about affirmative action, though. Almost as if they assumed affirmative action means lowering educational standards.
Expanding opportunities for disadvantaged youth to enter educational programs they qualify for? Good ๐
Allowing anybody into an educational program that they don't even meet the basic prerequisites for, because you're afraid to deny someone who could blame prejudice? Bleh ๐
It's not that hard to comprehend.
Amazing how you assume "doesn't meet the basic prerequisites for the educational program" means "brown people." You racist or something?
I on the other hand understand that "brown people," as you say, are perfectly capable of meeting the same requirements as everyone else, so it's patronizing to act like they need those standards lowered.
Affirmative Action is about securing positions to qualified candidates who would otherwise be looked over due to their demographic/background. It's not about lowering standards to let anybody in because (as you seem to be assuming) "brown people are too stupid to meet the same standards." If that's what you believe Affirmative Action is about, then you've fallen for right-wing propaganda about it. Good job.
Also, it doesn't make me a grammar nazi to believe everyone in a college writing class should be able to formulate complete sentences in the language the class is instructed in. It's on the education system to prepare future college students for that, and if they can't do it in 12 years of primary and secondary schooling, then that's a failure of the system. And you're not doing anybody any favors by saying we should let that slide just because you don't believe brown people can actually do better.
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affirmative action is fucked up, and often undermines itself. it should be done away with, and often it's used by well-off minorities to secure educational resources that they already have in abundance from their wealth and deny less affluent whites.
it should be replaced by economic affirmative action. which is far more equitable and would benefit poor minorities more.,
it's effectively dead right now anyway. how that changes enrollments is yet to be seen clearly.
I agree strongly. Putting a thumb on the scale and unevenly lowering the bar in order to achieve equal success rates for everyone causes more problems than it helps.
yeah but it looks good on paper when you are judging people and districts by metrics like graduate rate.
the problem with education, broadly, it has become reduced to a system of gaming performance metrics by which it's measured.
it isn't judged by the individual students, or even individual schools.
Yeah, I wish more people could see that instead of crying racism any time someone raises the concern. Because it does not help disadvantaged communities, it only excuses the failures of the education system to adequately serve those communities.