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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Honestly, I think Sumerian or Akkadian would be better but Latin does have its charms.

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Aramaic seems like it was a big deal for a while

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

It was, more in the Ptolemaic and Roman periods in Palestina and Judaea. It takes almost all of its vocabulary from Hebrew. Even at its height, it was basically just a regional language and never had the reach and depth that Greek and Latin had.

It's important if you're studying intertestamental or early Christian texts, but, even then, many were translated to Greek

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 53 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Ehh honestly, can't something as powerful and as long lived as Satan just... Know all spoken languages?

Imagine Satan trying to seduce you, but unable to buy your soul because he can't speak your language fluently. Would be a funny setup, but kinda lame

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 36 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

So if you were like a terminally online furry would Satan be all uwu *buys your soul*

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 25 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

*notices your soul* OwO what's this?

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 5 points 17 hours ago

That would be kinda hot ngl

[–] BucketBong@p.hobo.social 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Satan: vende mihi animam tuam pro maximo desiderio

Me: what's this about my verandah?

Satan: vende mihi animam tuam pro maximo desiderio

Me: Sorry, I... I got to get going, I got an appointment, hope you get help with whatever the fuck you need.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 2 points 13 hours ago

vade retro satana, nunquam suade mihi vana

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well, for the Western world, classical Latin has a kind of mystique or vibe that other languages don't. People fear the grammar and classical pronunciation is just different enough (all c's are pronounced as "k") to make it sound familiar and foreign.

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

Interesting point, so it kind of puts it in the uncanny valley of language.

familiar foreign spooky.

[–] Steve@communick.news 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Most versions I've seen in TV and movies can.
I'd assume all celestials can speak all languages ever created.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

That's incredibly offensive.

Implying that a holy being could speak french makes me wanna barf

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Don’t worry, the devil only speaks Québécois

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

I feel like Odin would know French, not because he wanted to but because he got lost and ended up picking it up for insult purposes.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 points 14 hours ago

I enjoy the language despite butchering it every time, and I especially enjoy the French countryside. Pretty damn forgiving of a terrible accent, and with a smile.

Its Parisians that usually piss me off.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 14 hours ago

I'm not sure of your reasoning. But I'll provide two ideas that may make you feel better and/or worse about it.

  1. It wouldn't be their first language.
  2. They'd speak it as well as if it were.
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yes but how many Sumerian or Akkadian grimoires survive today in their original language?

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Nowhere as many as Latin. As far as ancient languages, Egyptian magical texts definitely outnumber Akkadian and Sumerian.

A large number of surviving Akkadian texts are commercial or official records. The most famous is probably the complaint against Ea Nasir.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately we know what latin sounds like (though most of hollywood has only a vague concept), and nobody speaks ancient Egyptian of Akkadian.

From what I gather even reading either is a nightmare..

[–] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah hieroglyphs don't record vowel sounds, so on many accounts we don't actually know how something was pronounced. There's good guesses made based on later phonetics, but there's unavoidably also stuff that's just forever lost. Latin is way easier because we can just use the church latin pronunciation that still survives, don't even need to go for the classical one. It's not like average people know the difference anyway

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

We also have latin rhymes and even pronunciation guides from many different times, because the romans ended up teaching latin to quite a few people for uhm... less ethical reasons.

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

But does it really matter if we don't kmow what they sound like. It's not like audience will know either.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Unless Ea Nasir was carving scarabs and magic squares on his copper, I don't think that counts as a magical text.

I'm aware of the Chaldean Oracles, but they don't survive in their original language. I think the oldest surviving translations are in Greek or Arabic.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Have you seen Akkadian? Shits got like 300 letters. Latin was definitely the upgrade.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

One of my professors could read Akkadian. He had to master Biblical Hebrew before being allowed to begin studying Akkadian. He said he had hundreds of flashcards and spent at least an hour every day studying them - aside from doing his regular coursework.

I took 25 credit hours each of Biblical Hebrew and Latin, and I am quite content never having attempted Akkadian.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, if I was Satan, that would have been the earliest utterance of the phrase 'fuck that shit'.