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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

he won’t put his finger on the scale of any primary

My brother, I have an amazing deal on a bridge if you'd just jump into my DMs really quick.

Thats why voting in Dem primaries is more important than ever.

If you see a candidate worth voting for then you should vote for them. But never forget that NYC has some of the most byzantine and restrictive voting laws in the country. Worse than Florida. Worse than Texas.

So save the finger-waging at The Voters and reconsider how much Wall Street machine politics keeps a stranglehold on the statewide offices, such that guys like Mamdani are far more the exception than the rule.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah! Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses to not bother!

Apathy is the biggest factor in disenfranchisement, much as we'd all like to blame "the establishment" for lack of participation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Voting is difficult so people have lots of excuses

Disenfranchisement is public policy, so people are prohibited from casting their votes.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And Lemmy users are voluntarily consenting to become disenfranchised. They're doing the billionaires' work for them.

They're voluntarily agreeing to stay home on election day, let Trump win, and kill the Palestinian protest movement by giving people new problems to worry about.

If it weren't for these non voters, Kamala would have won and we'd currently be forcing her to divest from Israel. But instead we have Trump bombing Iran on Netanyahu's orders and we have to do No Kings instead of No Israel. We're stretched too thin because of these guys.

[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm pretty sure the argument is that the Democrat party is a billionaire owned party.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

You are reversing the timeline. Most politicians betrayed them so they no longer care and bother to vote. I am person who votes

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And Lemmy users are voluntarily consenting to become disenfranchised.

That's just victim blaming.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz -3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I love blaming victims who lick boot

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

The boot licking is coming from inside the liberal tent. That's why we ended up with a liberal majority voting for more ICE agents and fewer IRS agents.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At this point I'm not ruling out that Ken Martin has a lemmy account. That account only ever shows up to stan for him.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You have to wonder how many accounts are people trying to drive disengagement with the process as well, then. Cause there's a hell of a lot more "dont bother participating cause we're all doomed" commenters than those sucking off the DNC.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's possible. Stanning for DNC leadership seems weirder to me than being blackpilled about democratic participation, though. I don't agree with either position, but being jaded is at least understandable to me.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I find irrational hope and irrational despair equally easy to understand, but I'm always gonna side with irrational hope over irrational despair.

What I don't understand is thinking that irrational hope is a billionaire ploy but irrational despair isn't. Have you seen the world in the last 6 years? The billionaires love despair and hate hope.

I'm on the Wachowskis' side with thinking that love and hope are inherently revolutionary. All of their movies are about people who believe in hope overthrowing the ruling class. The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Speed Racer...

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And you don't think that's a problem? That you identify more with people who'd rather do nothing and let everything burn down around you out of spite than do literally anything to help?

It's not even like they're saying "This person is the greatest person who ever existed and should lead the world!" They're just saying "This guy isn't as bad as you make him out to be, maybe give the process a chance instead of giving up entirely".

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Don't put words in my mouth. Being jaded is understandable because of the extremely obvious flaws in our democracy and the negligible correlation between what voters want and what they get, and being dismissive of the DNC leadership is equally understandable given the canyon between them and their voters on Israel, money in politics, and the relationship between workers and capital.

I never said burn it all down, and explicitly said I disagree with the blackpilled. Your representation of what I said is so dishonest I'm wondering if you're an alt account.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I find it amusing that dbzer0 is all "Don't advocate for electoralism (which we define as voting at all) here, you have the rest of Lemmy to do that" when the ratio is so unbalanced.

Are there even ANY pro-voting instances?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finding out the DNC has an unpaid intern working the Lemmy beat would be so fucking funny.

That the account moderates "A Boring Dystopia" carries levels of irony my mind can barely even grasp.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t believe it because while the Dems are terrible at social media they’d never waste money on Lemmy

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the cool thing about unpaid interns...

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're talking about capitalists, here. They understand opportunity costs are losses.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what that has to do with the use of free labor.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

Basically if they use an unpaid intern on Lemmy that's one less unpaid intern on a social media platform that average people actually use.