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Note: Judging by the comments, a lot of people are obviously not reading the post and are instead assuming we are calling for defederation of lemmy.world. That is not the case, and in fact the opposite is true. LW already temporarily defederated anarchist.nexus once, and the evidence suggests Mr Kaplan is now pushing for full defederation of all the FAF instances. We are trying to build a coalition of instances that will agree to defederate from lemmy.world IF Kaplan goes ahead with the defederation. Apologies if you weren't aware of the context.


🏴‍☠️ Hoist the Black Flag: Pledge to Boycott Lemmy World!

... if Lemmy World dares to defederate from any ship in the Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla - https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/, https://anarchist.nexus/, and https://quokk.au/.


Mateys, we can’t let a mega‑instance captain bully the rest of the fleet just because their ship’s bigger. If Lemmy World tries to throw the FAF overboard, we’re calling for a show of solidarity: a fediverse blockade of Lemmy World in response, until the landlubbers see reason (i.e., there is an acceptable change in their leadership and/or this policy).

This is about mutual aid, not mutiny - standing together so no single admin gets to rule the seas unchallenged. A united armada of smaller instances can absolutely blunt Lemmy World’s outsized influence (and, let’s be honest, their ego).


☠️ A word to the captains: before hoisting colours or locking in a course, we ask ye to let your crew have their say. Run a poll, open the deck for discussion, and listen to the voices aboard your vessel. These seas belong to all of us, and decisions that shape our fediverse should be made together, not from the captain’s quarters alone.

If other captains be keen to chart this course with us, drop anchor and make the pledge public in the comments. The more hands on deck, the harder it is to sink any one of us. Let us know if you are holding a vote!

dbzer0 and AN members can vote on this pledge in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and quokk.au will be holding their own vote.

🏴‍☠️ Solidarity forever, and fair winds to the Flotilla!

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for not scolding me.

Let me explain this from a newb's perspective. Maybe I'm not the only user here that literally just surfs without greater knowledge of the inner workings of the platform.

I left Reddit in the exodus. Found Lemmy through an online search for alternatives. I don't really understand federation. Thought it was kind of like Borg technology, you know spread across the globe instead of calling one location/company home, so safer. When I signed up 3 years ago I really don't remember what it was like. I selected .world because it sounded generic and all encompassing, I guess. I didn't know each instance had a bent. To be honest, I still don't. This post seems to imply the mods are pro-maga or anti free speech or something, but when I peruse Lemmy I don't see any of that, in fact it feels pretty liberal to me. But once I was called names for belonging to some horrible instance which was hilarious to me because I wasn't even sure I had a choice.

Later I saw a description from someone of all the instances, but that was HIS opinion. But I figured, sure I can change, what do I care. As long as I see similar content (memes, news, asklemmy, til-style stuff, etc), but I didn't see how to do it. The pullout on the side showed my instance but not really how to select a different one. So thank you for clarifying. But, to be honest, I have no clue how to "select one myself" now anymore than I did back then. The only thing I've seen is that .ml is probably not for me. I could be jumping into the fire from the frying pan only to have someone later tell me how horrible my instance is and that I should change.

I see that piefed is intercompatible with Lemmy, but that's literally all I know about it. Why do they both exist? Were they two different platforms that just decided to link? Also if I create a new account, how does that hurt .world? Shouldn't I delete my current account too? I didn't really subscribe to communities but I did tag some favorite posts. Can those be transferred? It's all very confusing to me because I have a life and a lot of stuff to do that's not studying every aspect of federation. I just want to come here to unwind.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This post seems to imply the mods are pro-maga or anti free speech or something, but when I peruse Lemmy I don’t see any of that, in fact it feels pretty liberal to me. But once I was called names for belonging to some horrible instance which was hilarious to me because I wasn’t even sure I had a choice.

Take note. While most mainstream language equates the two, "liberal" doesn't mean "left" for the most part. It just means "not the GOP," in the context of the United States. Liberalism promotes Zionism, or at least, doesn't discourage it.

Obviously, the distinction is more nuanced and lengthy than my summary, but the point is that we don't tolerate hate of any kind. Zionism is a form of nationalism and advocates for a greater state of Israel at the cost of Palestinian, and now Lebanese, American, and Iranian lives.

Nobody should die in the name of statehood, state pride, or nationalism. That's what Zionism promotes.

I choose all lives.

(also, congrats on your departure from reddit. I chose Lemmy.world first, too. It was the biggest instance and made the most sense to join. Later, I realized that my instance could better represent my own beliefs.)

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the comment. I may sound lazy but I'm not looking up liberal either. I know I'll find 10 different definitions. To me it's just left and right and people can pick nits all they want.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That's about the speed most people live. Probably why we're in this mess to begin with.

I'll say it again so it's clear to you:

Liberalism promotes Zionism, or at least, doesn’t discourage it.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure ok. A liberal is a left winger that supports Zionism, I guess.

I do object to you implying that I'm part of the problem just because I haven't searched the exact definition of my beliefs. Exactly how did that get us into this mess? I know what I believe whether I've properly labeled it or not.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure ok. A liberal is a left winger that supports Zionism, I guess.

A liberal is a ~~left winger~~ centrist portrayed as a left winger that supports Zionism...

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

Whatever you say.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I just got whiplash from reading this post lol.

Hope you find a new instance that works for you!

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

So I actually DID look it up and according to the American heritage dictionary it's:

Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded. synonym: broad-minded. Similar: broad-minded Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

I don't see anything there relating to Zionism.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Of course, happy to help! You're far from the only person on the Fediverse who isn't entirely sure how the whole thing works, it's kinda confusing stuff to wrap your head around, so please don't sweat it at all, and ask as many questions as it takes <3

Some instances are general-purpose, some instances are specific to a certain locality/country, some (such as my own, pawb.social, which is a specifically furry-friendly instance) are for special interests, and so on. There's no harm in creating a few accounts on a few different instances and just seeing which you prefer the vibes of, or just pick one and roll with it. I'd personally recommend avoiding lemmy.ml and hexbear.net as well, as those are both pro marxist-leninist instances and can be quite intolerant of people who do not agree with their world views, and are widely defederated, so they're a little bit more siloed, but it can be worth having an account there too if you're interested in seeing content from them from time to time.

This post seems to imply the mods are pro-maga or anti free speech or something, but when I peruse Lemmy I don’t see any of that

There are some admins of the Lemmy.world instance who are pro-Zionist/pro-Israel, and who are intolerant of anti-Zionist messaging. The way that they suppress dissent is generally hard to spot unless you yourself engage in anti-Zionist conversations, because it's generally through silently deleting comments and enforcing rules more harshly and in a one-sided way against those who they personally disagree with, and selectively not enforcing rules for those who agree with their views. You'd need to be looking for trends in what kinds of posts/comments are most commonly deleted in the Lemmy.world mod log - when the mod logs are even made public, which sometimes they aren't. So you can't be blamed at all for being unaware of the issue, especially considering that the admin team are quite cagey around the topic.

What's the deal with Lemmy/PieFed? Why do they both exist?

So, basically, Lemmy and PieFed are both just different interfaces into the same content. It works a little bit like email - you have your own email provider and other people have their own email providers, and everyone can communicate with each other through email, but the different providers have different interfaces and so on. Some providers use the Lemmy interface, and others use the PieFed interface. PieFed has a couple extra features, like polling, but Lemmy has existed for a lot longer, and may be a bit more stable. Basically, just pick whatever, feel free to try them both out and see what you like.

As for why, basically, because someone decided they could do a better version of Lemmy, and decided to just go off and do it, and they made PieFed. There's a bit more of a story behind why they decided to, but it's ultimately not important for users.

Also if I create a new account, how does that hurt .world? Shouldn’t I delete my current account too?

Because Lemmy.world has the overwhelming majority of users and communities, they can throw their weight around and bully other, smaller instances, which is basically what is happening in this recent drama. By migrating users (and ideally, communities) off of lemmy.world, they become less capable of doing that, and so they have to act a bit better behaved and play well with other instances for mutual co-operation.

It's up to you whether you delete your account or not - usually active users are used, rather than overall users, to judge the size/activity of an instance.

I didn’t really subscribe to communities but I did tag some favorite posts. Can those be transferred?

Yeah, you can do it manually, or you can use the automated tool I linked above - it'll move your saved/favorite posts/comments over as part of that process.

Hope this helps, feel free to ask if there's anything else you need clarified!

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Thank you for taking the time, a lot of time, to help me. It's much appreciated and very polite.