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[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Level 3 is the most correct.

[โ€“] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Nah, level 1 is actually correct. Regardless of its etymology, octopus is an english word and should be pluralised accordingly.

But see here's the thing, English has no rules for plurals, so "accordingly" basically means "by vibes".

[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Level 3 includes level 1 in it, with the addition of a plural using the original language's rules.

[โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It would only work the other way around. If english grammar dictates that a loan word's original language grammar be used. Aka level 1 includes level 3. You cannot just throw some other languages grammar at english however you please

[โ€“] Viceversa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You cannot just throw some other languages grammar at english however you please

.. because English would steal said grammar by itself!

[โ€“] Zwiebel@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Wait that's illegal!!!

[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Of course you can, that's why oxen, fungi, etc. exist.

[โ€“] antonim@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Oxen is historically a 100% English plural, just like child-children, it wasn't loaned. (I should check, but I'm pretty sure it's the same -en as in German plurals: das Auge, die Augen.)

Some of these Latin plurals can survive for technical terminology. But it's pretty much only Latin ones, due to the historical prestige. Nobody talks of Soviet apparatchiki, it's apparatchiks.

[โ€“] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really. Depending on the noun, the plural may be -us (called u-declination) instead of -i (called o-declination)

Example: modus is also modus in plural.

[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Octopus is a word of Greek origin. Nothing to do with Latin rules.

[โ€“] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Octopus is an English word so it is perfectly correct to pluralise it as octopuses. To use octopi is definitely wrong (it's the wrong foreign pluralisation), octopodes is using an uncommon foreign pluralisation so it's not wrong, just non standard

[โ€“] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that part is correct but the first part of the sentence of level 3 is not :)

[โ€“] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ah, so you really have an issue with level 2.

[โ€“] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

You think we're using a Greek word not an English word?