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Weed is such a harmless little bullshit drug to be so ridiculously over-the-top hyper criminalized in some countries like bruh.
Weed is gonna ruin your life because if you have it on your person imma sens you to prison for 30 fucking years and ruin your life.
It does not. Make. Sense.
Outlawing cannabis products was essentially an exercise in deliberate systemic racism in the US. (Nixon).
Unsure about the rest of the world.
IIRC the US heavily pressured other countries with tariffs to also ban it
India here, colonial penal code outlawed it but we're too prudish to change it after independence
It goes farther back than that. DuPont and Hurst had a hand in making cannabis look bad.
And hemp makes for a garbage printing medium anyway
Making cocaine illegal was for black people. Weed was for the hippies.
Oh yeah. To suppress the anti (Vietnam) war protests.
Yup. The goal was to make both groups felons to prevent them from voting.
They wanted Mexicans out too.
I thought it was about paper prices?
Yep, William Randolph Hearst fucked everything over for his textile businesses long before Nixon, but it is true that racism played a big factor, namely beginning to refer to it as marijuana instead of cannabis and linking that to those pesky Latinos
Meanwhile alcohol, one of the most harmful substances, is being consumed like water π
Delicious, masterfully distilled, barrel aged, water of life ππππ₯
Ew, who drinks water?
It's the dudes with the bud light cans.
β’And hippies β’And folks against the war β’And a way to fill for-profit prisons β’And a way to control where/how people live β’And a way to make cotton plantations make more β’And a way to prohibit something since alcohol bans didnβt work out
I did it all day every day for 12 years, then quit and went back to work like nothing happened. Try that with any other drug
I can attest to this, I too smoked all day every day and one day I was just too lazy to go buy more weed and I havenβt smoked since. That was 15 years ago.
It's not really because of weed itself, a lot of countries in East Asia have very strict drug laws. Historically it ties into the boxer rebellion and the way the West used opium to control China.
Yuuup. Had the opportunity to move to Singapore about a decade ago... NOPE. Great place to visit. Amazing people and food. No weed. Don't even think about it.
The only issue I have with weed, and most other drugs, is that you can't easily test for them in a person's system, meaning that you can't know if someone's driving under the influence. This wouldn't be as much of a problem if not for the fact that we have have such a car centric society. I don't like people endangering other people just for a buzz.
Imagine being so car brained that you base personal freedom around it
I don't think this is "car brained". They're not saying anything around public transit, just that we need to have a test for DWI and weed. People shouldn't be jailed for 30 years regardless of the presence of the test or not, but we do still need some other test. Otherwise I guarantee that "don't drive while baked" will be the next infomercial you see in a few years.
Missing the point a bit, we shouldn't base legalization around if people are going to drive their cars on a substance.
100% agreed. Like I said I think it should be legal regardless, the punishments are way too severe for what it is. But on a completely different note, we do still need the tests. I love drinking and I love smoking, but there are rules of the road, and one of those is "don't drive the death machine with impaired judgement".
But yes you're right, the legality shouldn't be based on if "but what if they drive". I'm more saying "if you do some life-disregarding level ignorant" shit you're still getting in trouble.
I honestly ......... for calling me "car brained". That insult hurt me more than any other I've received. I want to protect pedestrians and cyclists from people driving cars under the influence. I want to limit driving people's freedom to make life better for everyone.
That's honestly a very odd reaction, for what it's worth I meant it lightheartedly.
Of course I think pedestrians and cyclists also deserve safety.
I would like to point out however that a majority of incidents are drunk drivers who do not already have a device like that in their car, so it's a tad bit absurd to indicate your hard line for legalization is that when it would only apply after the fact anyway.
Sorry, that was too rude, I just got really upset... It's odd, I've never really gotten angry at internet comments until now.
I just wanted to point out my single issue with weed, which is more an issue with car centric infrastructure.
Sorry for making you angry!
Yeah, it's hard, it's not like you're wrong that driving while baked is more dangerous then sober, but to your point I think the way our infrastructure is built where pedestrians are an afterthought if thought about at all, definitely contributes to make it even more dangerous.
I wish we had more walkable/bike-friendly locations, it's just not super likely given how large the US is
Nothing you said was rude. In fact everything you said was correct on all counts. I think the other person was just joking
I edited my comment. I said that I despised them and said "fuck you". Not that bad, but I changed it to be a little less abrasive.
The best way to eliminate this risk is public transit.
Yes. I want to ban cars too.
You can easily test if they're in someone's system with a saliva test, so your argument doesn't make any sense.
Blood test is better for weed. It's only detectable for 12h vs 24h with saliva.
But levels of THC aren't really correlated with impairment.
12 to 24h seems good (maybe even too long imho) in the context of driving a car.
Not when the levels have no bearing on intoxication.
I would even say some drivers might be better drivers with hints of calming THC&CBD in their system...
They have mouth swabs they use now that can tell for smoking.
I am 100% on bike I see no argument on there. Just don't smoke 3 day before you have to drive.
Gotta keep feeding the slave force.