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A society should always prioritize its weaker members. Children are among these. The flexibility given to the parents is not a gift to the parents, but to the children.
Regrettably, this focused flexibility has an unintended side effect. It makes people with children less desirable in the job market. If it is a universal right, then it has the effect of pulling those with kids into parity with the non parents.
We have a lot of things an employer has to afford to parents in Germany. The only significant discrimination is against women who might have children in the future and that's more to do with them not being able to work for a while.
This is why not only should fathers get the same amount of time off as mother's, but they should be required to take it.
Yes, that's why mothers should only be allowed to be employed 24 hours per week at most. Their children deserve it!
If children deserve more care from society, give them more care from society. Give non-parents the flexibility they deserve and reward them for helping out children. Putting everything on the parents when they can be incompetent or abusive is clearly unhealthy for children.
do you wanna go pick up janes feverish toddler from daycare today? shes gonna scream and cry and you arnt getting sleep, also, be on alret because the fever may not break tonight and you may have to call out tomorrow too.
From each according to there ability, To each according to there need.
People with children need more from society, as long as those people are also contributing as much as they are able, they deserve to have that need me
That’s it! I’m taking “smoke breaks” every hour for my health…
Why not both? I chose not to have kids because I think this world is idiotic and don't want more unnecessary suffering.
And it's your choice, which is absolutely respectable. But refusing to support your society's children because you're childless is not better that being against DEI because you're white.
When it's possible to give the same flexibility to everybody, that should be done of course, but it's not always the case.
It’s not “society’s children” they’re refusing to support, it’s their shitty employer under capitalism. If we lived in a utopian society, you’d have a point. It’s not the employee’s role to sacrifice for some other person the employer is accommodating at your expense.
Capitalism is not an excuse not to stand in solidarity within the working class. And capitalism doesn't make society disappear, in spite of what they would want us to believe.
But we're not talking about whether or not childcare would be subsidised (it should) or education and healthcare be free (they should). We're talking about whether being flexible to work from home or have flex hours should be allowed. And they should. For everyone, regardless of parental status.
It's not always possible. When it is, of course it should be for everyone; but children should have their parents with them when they're sick or when school is closed. And that often means that childless workers can't be on holiday at the same time.
That's exactly what this debate was about, you're agreeing now.
The post says "flexibility".
If the ability to shift hours or wfh is provided to those with children, it should be provided to everyone.
Sure, comment op chose to not have kids, but parents also chose to have kids (or chose to not practice safe sex).
Parents chose to have kids; kids don't chose to be born. Flexibility should be given to everyone; priority should still be given to those to need it to take care of others. Because if you give a lot of flexibility to everyone, schedule conflicts will occur.
Kids are what form the next generation. Society needs them. You can choose not to contribute to the future of humanity by directly producing offspring, but if you also don't support those who do, you have less value to society.
Bullshit.
We aren’t talking about supporting these kid’s education and shit that society does which most are us are totally fine with, we are talking about missing out on our own lives because employers prioritize parents taking time off over us.
I’m not less valuable to society because I don’t want to sacrifice my family time for some entitled asshole coworker’s kids. And the entitled asshole (I’m sure we’ve all worked with one) is always first in line to complain if they don’t get their holiday.
You neglect to consider adopting parents.
Many who don't have children are among its "weaker" members. Flexibility and being treated well should be a cornerstone of society no matter if you have kids or not, especially now when the vast majority are having a hard enough time.
Good thing our benevolent overlords grant us such gracious “gifts” 👌🏼🍆
Gift may not be the right word, you're right; but English is not my mother tongue and I didn't find a better one.
Your phrasing was an excellent change of perspective.
No problem. Your English is fine. It’s the concept in general, regardless of what words we use.