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[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not “society’s children” they’re refusing to support, it’s their shitty employer under capitalism. If we lived in a utopian society, you’d have a point. It’s not the employee’s role to sacrifice for some other person the employer is accommodating at your expense.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalism is not an excuse not to stand in solidarity within the working class. And capitalism doesn't make society disappear, in spite of what they would want us to believe.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

But we're not talking about whether or not childcare would be subsidised (it should) or education and healthcare be free (they should). We're talking about whether being flexible to work from home or have flex hours should be allowed. And they should. For everyone, regardless of parental status.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's not always possible. When it is, of course it should be for everyone; but children should have their parents with them when they're sick or when school is closed. And that often means that childless workers can't be on holiday at the same time.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That's exactly what this debate was about, you're agreeing now.

The post says "flexibility".

If the ability to shift hours or wfh is provided to those with children, it should be provided to everyone.

Sure, comment op chose to not have kids, but parents also chose to have kids (or chose to not practice safe sex).

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 points 46 minutes ago

Parents chose to have kids; kids don't chose to be born. Flexibility should be given to everyone; priority should still be given to those to need it to take care of others. Because if you give a lot of flexibility to everyone, schedule conflicts will occur.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

Kids are what form the next generation. Society needs them. You can choose not to contribute to the future of humanity by directly producing offspring, but if you also don't support those who do, you have less value to society.

[–] CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social 0 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

Bullshit.

We aren’t talking about supporting these kid’s education and shit that society does which most are us are totally fine with, we are talking about missing out on our own lives because employers prioritize parents taking time off over us.

I’m not less valuable to society because I don’t want to sacrifice my family time for some entitled asshole coworker’s kids.