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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 200 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Boots on ground will run into artillery and drones.

It’s like they learned nothing from watching Russia and Ukraine.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Iran also has a lot experience with drone warfare since they're supplying Russia with drones and have people operating and learning in an active war. Meanwhile the US hasn't really fought against drones in a real war and they refused help from Ukraine one of the countries at the forefront of drone warfare.

I wonder how long will Trump stay in office when the internet starts getting videos of American soldiers getting killed by drones just like the ones with Russian soldiers we have right now.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 161 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Trump has raped children, is a convicted felon, and demolished part of the White House. He's threatened reporters with execution, demanded personal enrichment as part of foreign trade, incited a terrorist attack on the Capitol building, and then pardoned the terrorists convicted of their crimes. He has openly solicited bribes and disclosed classified data to our enemies that resulted in the deaths of American agents abroad.

His supporters will not move an inch regardless of how many soldiers they see dying.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the plain and stark language. I’m so tired of the sane washing, I’m so tired of skirting the issue. We need to accept and then figure out how to deal with the facts.

It’s not his supporters I’m worried about, it’s the apathy and impatience of the average american voter that does.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah, GOP voters have always been a lost cause. The real question is what impression do the idiot swing voters have of him these days.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I've been around for over 4 decades and the only thing I've ever seen conservatives give a fuck about were gas prices, unborn babies (specifically), and people with not white skin becoming president.

Note: Specifically unborn babies because they don't give a flying fuck about kids after they're born. That's why they voted for a party that is currently obliterating child cancer research and are against free school lunches.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's because Conservativism isn't really am ideology. It's psychological cover for being selfish. Conservatives define their core values based on whatever is good for the people within the Conservative group. They believe that they are the good people, the special people, and that they are entitled to whatever they want. Anyone that stands in their way is evil. Any facts that challenge their world view are lies. Any crimes they commit in service to their goals are justified.

Conservatives don't care about gas prices or unborn babies or racism unless those issues help them get elected. Conservatives get abortions when they want them. They will even blame other people getting abortions "for no reason" as the reason why they can't get their own "totally justified and moral" abortion.

They start wars, make trade agreements, and deregulate inustries that raise gas prices, because someone is getting rich from the high gas prices. When Conservatives are in charge and prices go up, they will tell you it is your patriotic duty to fuel up you SUV and drive around.

Even the racism is entirely user dependent. Black conservatives, Latino conservatives, Asian conservatives, Jewish conservatives, Islamic conservatives, Russian conservatives, they all hate someone and they all pretend to be the most persecuted people. It doesn't matter if they all hate the same people, as long as they hate somebody.

This is not politics. It's pathological narcissism.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This all has a simple cause at the root: conservative worldview assumes that life is a zero-sum game, and for one person or group to prosper, others must lose.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not even that complicated. A comservative doesn't care if anyone else loses, as long as they feel like they win.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Perhaps, but to expend effort on getting someone to lose and themselves to win, they must believe that the balance works that way. If they believed that cooperation is a win-win situation and absence of cooperation is lose-lose, they would act differently.

Conservative worldview stems from the belief that the resources are always limited, so if someone else is getting them then the conservative in question doesn't. If you extrapolate this presupposition, you can derive pretty much every single position that conservatives hold on any issue.

Although it's funny that fiscal individualism, aiming to keep one's money to themselves, ends up benefitting corporations and rich bastards hoarding the wealth.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago

It’s because the real motivation isn’t the kids, it’s punishing women. Babies are just the marketing.

[–] homes@piefed.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They also really hate us LGBTQ people

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don’t hate you they think you’re literally an abomination. Especially the religious ones

[–] homes@piefed.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don’t think those two things are mutually exclusive. I mean… I’m not a religious person, so perhaps there’s some nuance to it that I don’t get, but, yeah… there is at least some overlap

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago

Hey, they care a lot about children after they're born, just not the way a normal person cares about them ..

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but this could make gas prices go up.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's just a progressive conspiracy and brown people are at fault.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Until he dies.

If un-armed Americans getting killed at home didn't get him removed, armed Americans getting killed overseas won't get him removed, no matter what happens he will refuse to leave office alive.

There's 300 million of you and 1 of him, do the whole world a favour AND FUCKING K-[Redacted for legal reasons but you get the idea].

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The people who got Trump elected will find another hack celebrity.

Trump has no magic powers beyond "name recognition", really, another "star". There will be another. And another. And another. Trump will be replaced immediately. The same filthy rich vampires will continue to "donate" and keep them elected.

USA is openly pay-for-play now, they don't even bother to hide it. Look who shared the stage with him when he won... and those were the dumb ones.

[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'm sure vance will be a paragon of liberal democracy.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

when the internet starts getting videos of American soldiers getting killed by drones just like the ones with Russian soldiers we have right now.

The difference is the videos will only come from official Iranian government sources since there is otherwise an internet blackout in Iran, to which the Trump admin will obviously respond "it must be AI, cannot be trusted, Iranian government propaganda." Meanwhile, like during Iraq, "embedded" US journalists will present a more rosy view of the conflict for US viewers at home while minimizing coverage of mounting evidence that the stories are true as US soldiers start leaking video themselves as conditions worsen.

He will stay in office until the midterms or Democrats are lucky enough to swing the midterms instead of handing Trump his stupid shit SAVE Act to fuck up the midterms. If that doesn't happen, he will be in office until he is dead, and there is almost assuredly no coming back from this, despite how notoriously stupid the entire Trump administration is.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A prolonged conflict in Iran could spell total global financial disaster. Like, really bad.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

best time to buy is when there is blood in the streets, republicans are disaster capitalists...they're actively trying to collapse the markets so they can profit from it.

they do it everytime they're in power, it's a pretty obvious cycle tbh...every recession the last 50 years happened under a republican administration

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

also they usa does poorly against insurgency, which iran has expertise in, plus they have other contingencies to prevent thier own govt downfall, thier leader got replaced almost as fast as he was killed.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Watching the glue factory footage yelling “it’s AI” all the way down

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (10 children)

He is doing what putin tells him.

And to those who say that Russia and Iran are allies. Russia was never a true ally with anyone, it is just partnership of convenience. US destroying itself in Iran has massive benefit for Russia.

And the fact that US did this and also lifted sanctions on Russia and Belarus is clear demonstration that US is ruled by Russian agent.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please just think about this for 5 minutes.

Russia's economy is about the same size as California's. They can no longer afford the President, Russia needs to step it up and give him a jet, a few hotels, or something to compete.

It's all legal, none of this matters.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They bribed him since 80s and probably have more on him than it is in Epstein files.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

through him likely, they have infilitrated the GOP since then, moscow mitch, rand paul i believe,,,etc. and everyones "favorite" tulsi gabbard.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

probably have more on him than it is in Epstein files.

What more could there be?

If Trump would be a liability the billionaires would start an impeachment. Trump and the files are the distraction.

The files show that nothing happens, no matter the accusation. Russia can't blackmail Trump. Blaiming Russia for Trump is just helping Americans to accept Trump because they don't have to feel responsible.

The US has been buying Uranium, and I think even oil, the entire time from Russia, despite the sanctions. Lifting sanctions for other countries just prevents that they start decoupling from the US.

March 13 (Reuters) - The United ​States issued a 30-day waiver for countries to buy sanctioned Russian oil and petroleum products currently stranded at sea

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-issues-new-russia-related-general-license-oil-treasury-website-2026-03-12/

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[–] Carmakazi@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm wondering about how they're going to get them there in the first place. Both landing craft and rotorcraft are going to be very vulnerable if our air power can't silence Iranian fire (which is seemingly the whole reason why this is "necessary").

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

also iran is much larger, and mountainous than afghanistan.

[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It will be more like Afghanistan. Iran is mostly mountainous and guerilla warfare will be the default. The US relies too much on technology which will not that useful in that environment. Don't forget that the Iran army has been training for years for this type of conflict. Afghanistan was a disaster for American troops but will be nothing compared to Iran.

Afghanistan, but with a military with more plans and more space and more resources. It’ll redefine the meaning of “don’t conduct a land war in Asia”

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I also wonder if the Iranian soldiers are willing to die for the regime or not. Like the Iraq invasion was relatively easy because the nation was fragmented and divided under Saddam and many soldiers deserted and surrendered quickly.

Of course the occupation was a different matter.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Whatever disagreements they have with the regime, they are rallying around the flag. Now they could peel off the kurds, except they already betrayed the kurds multiple times, and this administration explicitly has. Allowing Turkey to target them and such.

This US administration has no credibility, and no trust, and they are too dumb, mean, greedy, and short sighted to do empire successfully.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The regime is the only thing that maintain the state from complete collapse.Israel want another genocide. People learned from Iraq.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US military has long been obsessed with World War II era tactics. Which essentially amounts to "We've got more troops than you, and we've given them bigger guns".

But this strategy hasn't been relevant since the end of the Cold War. Why would I care how many soldiers you have stationed at an important facility when I can just blow said important facility up with my big bomb? Their presence is irrelevant. Now that drone combat is so prevalent the number of troops you have is even less relevant.

Iran has essentially managed to defeat the United States without any of their troops moving beyond their border.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US always loses to asymmetric warfare. Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m not a USA latter 20th century historian - have they actually won a war since WWII

[–] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The military can win a war, you just have to be willing to sterilize an entire population to do it. Politics is the issue there.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

While the Korean was hasn't officially ended, I'd say South Korea came out ahead.

If you count conflicts like Syria and Iraq, the US achieved the goal of toppling their leaders. But in none of those cases were they successful in creating a democratic government.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Trump learning anything has to be the biggest oxymoron in the world.