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Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.
Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26
I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.
Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.
From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.
I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...
It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.
We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone
Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!
That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…
Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.
Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.
Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.
I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.
could you not just get a data-only SIM?
Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.
I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯
Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.
"What a shame, better write an e-mail."
No one was arguing the other way...
Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.
The future of industry is doomed with gen z being militantly unwilling to take a phone call. But I am holding onto some hope because I hear they're also spearheading the CD music revival, so I just hope they also recognise the retro-coolness of telecommunication.
Otherwise, the art of verbal communication will die. People will meet and connect via text, only to be completely overwhelmed when they meet irl and have to talk to one another face to face. But social life is inconsequential. However, at the end of the day, if you can't talk on the phone for the purpose of business communication, your just a fucking pussy.
We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.
WTF is a "communication partner"?
Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it's not urgent or doesn't require discussion or you just don't like me.
Well the way you write I'm not surprised people don't like you.
that sounds like a different, bigger issue.
Nope, it's the same issue. Your calls are not lost in my inbox.
no. the issue is that your inbox is full of unclassified spam
Weird, my phone isn't full of unclassified spam.
Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.
Like Android you mean?
What about it?
Android is technically doing just fine.
I don't understand what that's supposed to mean.
That it doesn't have huge downsides.
Of course it does. Google is increasingly locking down the platform. In 6 months you won't even be able to sideload software anymore without Google's permission.
You are confusing few things here. You said that Linux (not Android) has huge downsides. I mentioned that Android does not have such huge technical issues and is technically doing just fine. Now you talk politics, not technicalities and these don't have anything to do with Linux or its downsides. My point is that Android proves that Linux on mobile does not have huge downsides, at least from technical POV. Also there is AOSP that is not affected by politics. Until Google decides to make it closed source that is.
I honestly have no idea what you're on about. I didn't say literally anything about politics.
Google disabling sideloading is not a huge linux problem, but ~~at~~ is something steaming from how Google handles it. But keep going on with how linux has huge downsides...
Why would anyone think that it was? Are you just doing the whole ignorant and annoying ACKCHUALLY "Android is Linux" thing?
I give up, linux has huge downsides but the linux os by the name android seemingly doesn't but linux has huge downsides you can't even list. OK, got it.
Oh Jesus. You really are. I have to say the thing again: Anyone who says "Linux" while not explicitly referring to Android or the kernel itself means GNU/Linux and your obtuse pedantry is not contributing anything to the conversation.
I'm Jesus now?
SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.
Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.
I don't see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.
This article is about Fairphone with /e/OS, not some other OEM with a proprietary Android variant.
Then you are off-topic as well.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS. AOSP alone has very little "userland" still actively maintained.
No. Pelespirit asked about Jolla which is mentioned in the ~~article~~ posts's text body. I gave context for Jolla's Android compatibility. It's 100% on topic.
And: "The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM."
I think I bought one, but I'm not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.
On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.
There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.