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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

the Jolla phone is the way to go

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

Edit: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-sept-26

[–] artyom@piefed.social 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean the downsides are it's Linux. That's not without it's upsides but the downsides are huge.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

could you not just get a data-only SIM?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

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[–] aegg@europe.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.

I guess if you're not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone's experiences should mirror yours exactly.

[–] aegg@europe.pub 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You still did not answer my question. Pinephone has those issues with all Linux OSes, so do ports for many phones. Officially supported phones do not to my knowledge.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

You asked 1 question, which I very clearly did answer. I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (12 children)
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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are there any downsides to this? There has to be, right.

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software. AOSP is more open than SailfishOS. The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM.

Upside of SailfishOS: There is a decent chance that the upcoming Linux ARM version of Steam + Proton will run directly on that device.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

SailfishOS userland is proprietary software

I don't see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t see it really as a downside compared to Android, since no OEM is running clean AOSP.

This article is about Fairphone with /e/OS, not some other OEM with a proprietary Android variant.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then you are off-topic as well.
/e/OS is based on LineageOS. AOSP alone has very little "userland" still actively maintained.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Then you are off-topic as well.

No. Pelespirit asked about Jolla which is mentioned in the ~~article~~ posts's text body. I gave context for Jolla's Android compatibility. It's 100% on topic.

/e/OS is based on LineageOS.

And: "The Android compatibility layer of SailfishOS is based on AOSP, so the stack to get the most important 3rd party apps working relies as much on AOSP as any Android ROM."

I think I bought one, but I'm not sure. I might have been very drunk back then.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On the first one there were limitations on the android emulation stack. Not sure how they managed afterwards on later OS releases or how it will go with newer ones.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There will always be limitations unless massive changes occur such as Google open sourcing their Play Services as part of AOSP. MicroG has limited resources to implement compatibility.