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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43965516

It is worth noting that both the hardware and software of Fairphone is heavily dependent on a Chinese company T2Mobile.

For those looking to avoid both US and Chinese companies, then the Jolla phone is the way to go.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would a phone have that many downsides? I would think that a computer would have much more. Maybe the phone companies don't play nice? I 100% don't know what the downsides would be.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

From my research, the phone part of the "phone" doesn't work very well. Which is a pretty big caveat.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have one. It has no issues with calling, video, ect...

It works in the states as well. And all apps too. I guess my only complaint is parts are getting hard to come by for fairphone 4. Which is why i bought the phone, to be repairable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

We were discussing Jolla, not fairphone

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

Oh wait sorry for some reason the interface didnt load the first comment. I dodnt see the context. Woops!

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s the main thing you’re buying it for…

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well, are you? I can’t remember the last conversation I had over phone.

Yes. Especially with work, although not necessarily with my personal phone, it does happen.

Also, it’s a 650 Euro, £562, device….i don’t want to buy it and some parts don’t work.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm with you - I'd pay extra for a phone that doesn't take calls just so I can force everyone to just send it as a text.

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

could you not just get a data-only SIM?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

Just delete all your phone apps and then you won't get anymore phone calls. Bing bang boom.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm on the phone all day. Believe it or not some people are different from you 🤯

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Goes both ways, I'd be happy if more calls would simply fail midway.

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Goes both ways

No one was arguing the other way...

"What a shame, better write an e-mail."

Ah yeah, I love writing emails back and forth for 5 days to do what could be accomplished in a 5 minute phone call.

[–] pfr@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The future of industry is doomed with gen z being militantly unwilling to take a phone call. But I am holding onto some hope because I hear they're also spearheading the CD music revival, so I just hope they also recognise the retro-coolness of telecommunication.

Otherwise, the art of verbal communication will die. People will meet and connect via text, only to be completely overwhelmed when they meet irl and have to talk to one another face to face. But social life is inconsequential. However, at the end of the day, if you can't talk on the phone for the purpose of business communication, your just a fucking pussy.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We clearly have different communication partners. Most of the issues of mine are solved by them thinking about it. Writing an e-mail forces them to.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

WTF is a "communication partner"?

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox. Just send me a text if it's not urgent or doesn't require discussion or you just don't like me.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anything you email me gets lots in a sea of bullshit imploding in my inbox.

that sounds like a different, bigger issue.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nope, it's the same issue. Your calls are not lost in my inbox.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no. the issue is that your inbox is full of unclassified spam

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago

Weird, my phone isn't full of unclassified spam.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well the way you write I'm not surprised people don't like you.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL because yours was so much nicer?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago
[–] aegg@europe.pub 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where did you get that from? I have been using one for the past 6 months without any calling issues.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It was a common complaint I came across when researching a few different Linux devices.

I guess if you're not having issues I must be wrong, because everyone's experiences should mirror yours exactly.

[–] aegg@europe.pub 1 points 12 minutes ago (1 children)

You still did not answer my question. Pinephone has those issues with all Linux OSes, so do ports for many phones. Officially supported phones do not to my knowledge.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 10 minutes ago

You asked 1 question, which I very clearly did answer. I'm not sure what you're looking for here.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

It has improved a lot through subsequent releases. It also depends on which phone it is running on. On my Xperia XA2 with licensed SailfishOS at the latest version, there are no issues with calls and SMS. It does not support VoLTE, but it is a non-issue in Europe.