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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Because the long term consequences are far more dire?

Like, are you saying Dems holding America hostage will make Republicans realize trump is the actual threat?

I'm not seeing the mechanism from which Democrats inflicting massive pain on American voters somehow removes trump.

What do you see happening?

Edit: a grammar.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean holding hostage? Republicans, along with breakaway Dems who are convenient scapegoats, had just gutted healthcare and other public services-- which literally disaffects everyone! And this will have generational consequences. How are Democrats holding America hostage when they are complicit?

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean holding hostage?

The only leverage points, as mentioned earlier, are a government shutdown or refusing to move the debt ceiling. Both of which are just "we are willing to inflict massive pain until our demands are met." That's what hostage taking is.

Other than that, the Dems have no political power until they win in the midterms.

had just gutted healthcare and other public services

These are political complaints. You've moved from "we have to stop fascism" to "I disagree with these policy choices" which is a vastly different arena. I disagree with the policies but more Americans voted for the administration to enact sweeping policy changes, that's democracy even when the results are other than what you wish they were.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you believe passive electoralism is going to work, there's going to be a rude awakening. Brazil and South Korea had only been more active nipping fascism in the bud because they experienced it first hand and know fascism when they see one. The opposition actively ran on opposing authoritarians. Americans, on the other hand, is yet to experience it directly. I mean, Americans are still splitting hairs about Donald Trump. I believe he will try to undermine the upcoming midterms. If not, he will fight to prevent the presidential elections from happening in 2028.

Fascism doesn't respond to "please" and "thank you".