If we can't be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?
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I would argue that it is the civic duty of a citizen to vote. Enthusiasm is irrelevant.
I agree with this, but that doesn't convince people to actually turn out and vote.
A politician needs to be able to generate enthusiasm to get people to vote
I fucking loathe this mindset. I mean I hate it with such a passion. Cuz all you're saying is you don't care if you lose. You don't care if the worst happens to all of us you'd rather not change your ways. Cause guess what? You're wrong.
You can say that until the cows come home but people turn out to vote when they're spoken to and engaged. Thinking anything else means you're okay with losing. And I resent the fuck out of my life being put in jeopardy because some of you are okay with losing.
We simply know that people are more likely to vote when they are enthusiastic. You can either keep telling people "do better" and keep losing, or you can accept human nature and use it to your advantage by running a candidate that people actually want.
People should have been planty enthusiastic to get anyone but Trump as President, but that shows how strong the misinformation machine is.
Personally I've always favored a system like Australia where voting is compulsory and punished with a small fine. That filters out the principled from the merely lazy.
Yes, but they do that only when they want you to vote. Imagine making it compulsory to vote, and then also suppressing your ability to vote... Then the fine is just a new tax and you still don't get to vote.
No, it simply shows that the Dem strategy of "putting up a turd that doesn't stink quite as bad as the other one" isn't enough to actually win when it matters.
We are back to the original point that people are so determined to blame Democrats that they sabotage their own efforts to get something better.
Ah, I see, we are back to absolving Democrats of any agency or responsibility.
Why is it Democrats responsibility to get progressives to vote in primaries? If you don't vote, politicians don't care about your opinions.
Let's not act like the Democratic primary process has been going well for the last elections - look how they treated Bernie, and there wasn't even a primary for Harris - after she was quite unpopular in the previous primaries!
That's not to mention that the Biden campaign before 2020 gave many signals that he'd be a one-term president. They said "we have to rally to defeat Trump", and then just didn't care to build up an alternative to Biden since they knew people would have to rally behind whoever they put up, since anyone would be better than Trump!
And if you don't speak to voters, voters don't care about politicians. Guess which one matters more?