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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 75 points 1 day ago (7 children)

A nuke would be a BRIGHT RED LINE for the entire world. He absolutely cannot deploy a nuclear weapon. If he does, we need to help every other nation on the planet topple the MAGA government in every way possible. Bomb DC to rubble, and hunt down every MAGA politician and propagandist with extreme prejudice.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have no faith the world would do shit. Particularly if the nuke is “limited” or “targeted” or “pinpoint” or whatever bullshit they want to use to justify mass murder.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Any nation using nukes and getting away with it would trigger a massive nuclear race in the entire world as everybody tried to nukes (either to defend themselves from those with nukes since the possibility of nukes being used offensivelly had become a reality, or to themselves engage in wars of conquest using nukes against nations without nukes) and in a World with many more nuclear armed nations sooner or later other nations too would use nukes, in an escalating fashion, ultimatelly leading to nuclear war all over the planet and the end of our civilization as we know it and possibly even Humanity.

This is why EVERYBODY, allies included, would turn against any nation that used nukes - it would be the only way to stop an escalation that would innevitably lead to a nuclear holocaust.

For all their threats to do so, it's not by chance that Russia did not use nukes in Ukraine: amongst others the Chinese made it very clear that any use of nuclear weapons was a hard red line for them.

[–] monketman82@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

"Defensive" nuclear strike.

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should be doing all that regardless.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The problem is most of us still have too much to lose

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago

People who still think they have too much to lose haven't realized they have no future to hold onto anymore, and that it's already lost. There's higher chance of survival in the long term if we actually did all that as opposed to sitting around like cattle working hard to afford making babies for them to fuck.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago

I admire your optimism. If Trump drops a smallish nuke on a remote reactor facility, we will get grave concern at best. The world has shown its hand already. It isn't going to do shit, and nobody is coming to help us.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

The world would “express great concern” and Americans would sit on their asses and do nothing.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I keep hearing that if he does this thing or that thing, it will be the last straw and America/the world won't stand for it. Then he does it, or something equally bad, and still nothing happens. Then people say yeah but if he does this next thing, it'll be the last straw. It's all just an excuse for why America and the world don't do something NOW! why wait?

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think he cares what the rest of t world thinks.

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All he cares about is what people think of him.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He drops a Nuke, and he'll be remembered for all time. So will the MAGA bloodbath that will follow. Killing the Top 40 Iranians will be nothing compared to the number of MAGA politicians who would die.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol you make it sound like there's anyone in America who'd actually stand up and do anything of that nature. They're all too fat and placated by dorritos to peel themselves off their couches and protest, let alone take any more significant actions. A third of them couldn't even be bothered to vote last time around, when the dictator who'd tried to violently overthrow the American government got back into power and started all this shit again.

You're still living in some sort of American exceptionalism fantasy. The country is an authoritarian dictatorship at this point, with a paramilitary that has more funding than most foreign armies, and a mandate to terrorize/pacify American dissent.

Realistically? Trump drops a nuke. MAGAs and America cheer, because "Nuke make big boom! MURICA STRONG!! USA USA USA!!". American/North American media whitewashes it as acceptable and good, just like all the zionist shit is whitewashed as acceptable and good. Americas moderates shrug and open a new bag of potato chips, waiting for aliens to show up on their Fox news feeds. Left wing Americans send thoughts and prayers if they're too poor to get out, or if theyre rich, they immigrate (like Angelina Jolie) to get away from a country they now view as inhumane. The democrats come out supporting the nuking too, as theyre entirely captured by Israel and AIPAC stuff. Russia then bombs Ukraine, and maybe some EU countries -- America spins that as proof that they were weak and were failed states moving towards "civilizational collapse", something they've already laid the groundwork for claiming, and redoubles its efforts to annex Canada and Greenland, and to subdue/castrate any upstarts in south America, likely with increased threats of bombing them all with nukes. China takes Taiwan, cause if Nukes are free to use, there's nothing really stopping them from doing so given general proximity -- you can't easily "park" a naval carrier group anywhere at sea to feign a projection of power, if your enemies are fine nuking the entire area to oblivion. That's one reason the states is so against Iran getting nukes I imagine -- it limits the deterrent influence of their more conventional military assets. Sorta like how the USA suddenly got real quiet about North Korea and the "DOOOM!!!" that'd occur if they got nukes... once NK actually got nukes (and the doom didn't occur! surprise! but trust us, Israel says Iran's different!).

Directly nuking a country that has nuclear capabilities would likely still be 'off the table' generally, as it'd trigger potential retaliation. But the rest get screwed. The USA has already walked away from its commitment to things like NATO, and has openly said they're fine letting Russia 'do whatever the hell they want' with European countries.

The above string of events sounds far fetched. But I find it far more believable than to think that Americans will actually do something about the shit their administration/country is pushing.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

I was told the reason Americans needed guns was in case of a tyrannical government

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Bomb DC to rubble

You know hundreds of thousands of people live there, right?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Government workers, not real people.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

This would be sociopathic enough but no not everyone the the dc metro area is a government worker.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes, I do, so evacuate them, and the Art. Then hunt those MAGA politicians down like the feral rabid animals they are.

This is in response to a NUCLEAR attack by MAGA, there will be no mercy for them. Any MAGA who voted for it, supported it, excused it, or defended it, is on The List.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

With those caveats I am totally on board

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In Tehran too. Thousands living in Baghdad didn't stop us. A world leader willing and able to use nukes in a war they started with a non nuclear enemy is an extinction level threat. In 45 it was one thing, but we can carpet the other side of the planet with fusion warheads now.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All of this is obviously bad, I'm not sure why it would be assumed I'm defending Trump or whatever it is going on here.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Actually him ordering a nuke and the military command flat-out refusing might be what his cronies need to finally realize he's a danger to the whole world.