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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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[–] Voidian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

People like to refer to the paradox of tolerance but always skip out on the inconvenient bit:

""Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

— In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.

We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.""

If you are not able to rationally argue why we shouldn't be bigoted, I don't know what to tell you.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

We are all bigoted.

The idea is we have institutions that minimize our bigotry by not being subject to the judgements of any one particular person and their biases.

People who claim some absolute stance of non-bigotry... are basically the most likely to engage in bigotry because they deny it is even possible they could be.

People who whinge on about the the paradox of intolerance are always cunts who want to have a reason to beat people up because it makes them feel big. It's a stupid argument either way, because there is no such thing as unlimited tolerance, and no society is ever 'free'.

[–] 9bananas@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

i mean, seems you're also conveniently skipping over the part that says:

as long as we can counter them by rational argument

it's right there in the text:

popper states outright, that there are some ideologies and by extension people, that straight-up cannot be argued with. these, therefore, must be excluded from the community, and thereby form the limit to tolerance that must be enforced.

people really love to misinterpret popper...

what goes along nicely with the tolerance of paradox is the quote about anti-semites being entirely aware of how absurd their position truly are:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

take both popper and sartre together into consideration of a larger context and it becomes abundantly obvious that a certain minimum of intolerance is strictly necessary for a functional society.

what happens when all checks on speech are removed can be clearly seen in the rotting corpses of facebook and twitter... it's disastrous.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One problem with bigots is they dont care about truth or logic. Its a waste of time to continually argue the same points over and over again with people who refuse to learn or think.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

But remember, be sure that your point is logical and truthful, and not parroting talking points in spite of them being repeated all around you.

Being truthful and logical is not always a popular position. Some would say it's not even often the popular position.

[–] Voidian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

You personally don't have to. Always plenty of people out there willing to do it for you.

[–] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

i think people not knowing how to actually win an argument against a bigot is exactly the reason there are so many these days

shit's easy. not that they'll admit defeat but getting them babbling irrational nonsense takes very little debating skills. and when they inevitably start throwing ad hominems, then the mods have legitimate grounds to kick them out.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

"You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves in to."

Though it is occasionally possible to point out how their arguments don't stand up to scrutiny and get them to engage on it.

Only works with the ones not doing it on purpose, however.