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Everything about Lemmy; bugs, gripes, praises, and advocacy.

For discussion about the lemmy.ml instance, go to !meta@lemmy.ml.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/11244755

Link here --> https://github.com/vmavromatis/Lemmy-keyboard-navigation

Feel free to give it a spin, all major browsers are supported (Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Edge). Feel free to leave any suggestions on github https://github.com/vmavromatis/Lemmy-keyboard-navigation/issues

Hope you like it!

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by morrowind@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml
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Finished up a recap site for lemmy similar to the recaps other sites like spotify, etc. have been doing!

Shows things like how many posts youve made, how many comments, your top posts of the year, the top communities you participate in, etc.

Theres a little role it assigns you and an image at the bottom that can be easily shared into the thread

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Here is our regular update that explains what we have been working on for the past two weeks. This should allow average users to keep up with development, without reading Github comments or knowing how to program.

@Neshura87 submitted the first ever RFC for Lemmy! It describes how post tags can be implemented.

0.19.0 is getting closer and closer to release, but we are still busy squashing bugs and getting lemmy-ui ready. For now there is another release candidate deployed on voyager.lemmy.ml for testing. Here is the full list of changes since the last release candidate for Lemmy and lemmy-ui

@nutomic fixed a bug with following local communities in the release candidate. He added a first integration test for image uploads.

@dessalines has been busy updating lemmy-ui to account for Lemmy API changes, and squashing various bugs like an issue with timezone db migrations, adding a creator_is_admin field to Post and Comment views.

@SleeplessOne1917 has implemented support for settings import/export in lemmy-ui, as well as some bug fixes.

Support development

@dessalines and @nutomic are working full-time on Lemmy to integrate community contributions, fix bugs, optimize performance and much more. This work is funded exclusively through donations.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. Recurring donations are ideal because they allow for long-term planning. But also one-time donations of any amount help us.

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I really like lemmy and have stopped using reddit months ago. My only real gripe with lemmy is the title: when a conversation gets going in the comment section, that gets killed when the post is deleted, for whatever reason. I can't even go back to a conversation and have a look at the comment threads to "dwell in nostalgia" (or whatever) if the post to the comment section gets deleted. Piecing the threads together from the inbox and my comments on my profile, and continuing a discussion via direct messages is cumbersome and kind of antithetical.

So, feature request, I guess: Enable retrieving comment sections of deleted (removed from community) posts. Bonus points if new comments could be added after the deletion (/removal) of a post.

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As it stands right now, individual mods have way too much power to fuck up the platform by banning people for political reasons and the modlog is not even remotely adequate in providing a full story on such actions. This isn't too big of an issue now, but as certain instances have proven, it has the potential to become a federation-wide problem if it's allowed to continue.

On reddit, the platform Lemmy was made to replace, removals are logged (r/undelete) so that any interested party may look into them, the users are warned of the action so that they know not to behave as such, and the affected parties can (in practice, most mods will just instantly mute you) have a chance to appeal. Here, your posting history is instantly wiped out with no chance of seeing the light of day, you're given a nebulous reason in the mod log, if any, and you have zero tools for correcting an erroneous action. You're just wiped out instantly with most of the people you've interacted with not even having knowledge that you're gone.

There's also an issue where removing a comment which is rightfully due for removal (for example: dogwhistled bigotry) also removes any comments below it explaining why the original comment is bad. This leads to a situation where mods are either forced to either keep up the hateful rhetoric alongside its callout, or remove the comment while also wiping out the educating material. This is an example where I feel redacting could be an acceptable option to keep the community safe while also allowing bigots to face the music for their shitty views.

The tools Lemmy provides to deal with evil on the platform are opaque and inadequate, and have high potential for being used in bad faith by bad actors seeking to destroy the platform itself, and have even caused friction among users in good faith in the past (as many warring instances, federating and defederating have shown) Ultimately a healthy federation comes from having moderation tools which protect the average person from being exposed to evil, while also giving a complete picture to those want to look into the why and how of a removal.

And for the love of god, if an instance bans you, please don't require you dig your own grave by having to block each and every community from that instance manually, one by one.

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I believe that the addition of an edit history would be a massive boon to the usefulness of Lemmy on the whole. A common problem with forums is the relatively low level of trust that users can have in another's content. When one has the ability to edit their posts, and comments this invites the possibility of misleading the reader -- for example, one can create a comment, then, after gaining likes, and comments, reword the comment to either destroy the usefulness of the thread on the whole, or mislead a future reader. The addition of an edit history would solve this issue.

Lemmy already tracks that a post was edited (I point your attention to the little pencil icon that you see in a posts header in the browser version of the lemmy-ui). What I am describing is the expansion of this feature. The format that I have envisioned is something very similar to what Element does. For example:

What this image is depicting is a visual of what parts of the post were changed at the time that it was edited, and a complete history of every edit made to the post -- sort of like a "git diff".

I would love to hear the feedback of all Lemmings on this idea for a feature -- concerns, suggestions, praise, criticisms, or anything else!


This post is the result of the current (2023-10-03T07:37Z) status of this GitHub post. It was closed by a maintainer/dev of the Lemmy repo. I personally don't think that the issue got enough attention, or input, so I am posting it here in an attempt to open it up to a potentially wider audience.

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Because of the time it takes for mods to moderate content on Lemmy, the"new" sort's been prone to abuse.

Could a "delayed new" sort, where the newest content x hours ago is shown be introduced to help suppress this problem?

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Hopefully this kind of content is ok here. Up until recently, when I would be searching for some kind of technical info, the top (and best) results would usually all be Reddit posts. I was very pleasantly surprised to do that this time and find a Lemmy post instead!

...It did happen to be a post from me, so unfortunately didn't answer my question at all, but I still thought it was really neat and wanted to share. Has anyone else seen Lemmy stuff getting indexed and turning up in their search results?

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Back in the ole Reddit days of ereyestermonth I had a habit of closing my reddit app of choice on my phone, and then as a reflex immediately open that same app back up.

The issue has evolved for me on Lemmy. I have two Lemmy apps on my home screen. I was using Voyager before Sync was released and then I started using Sync. But I also kept Voyager on my home screen since Sync didn't support posts when the beta was originally released. But now I'm too lazy to remove it. I still like Voyager anyway.

You see where this is going. I'm now stuck in a loop where I'm closing one app and opening the other, just to read through the exact same posts.

Send help. Or not. This is fine. I'm going to take a break from Lemmy for the rest of the day.

Posted from Sync for Lemmy

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It struck me recently that as the quality of content on the internet has arguably gone to shit, in the form of increasingly frequent ads plastered everywhere, paywalls or superficial/dumb blog posts or mainstream media articles, the basic idea of a link aggregator platform can naturally lose its quality, or struggle to maintain a level of quality, and so lose its appeal.

I think I can see this on lemmy (which is my favourite fediverse platform) to some extent and have probably noticed it on somewhere like hackernews to an extent too. I see a link that has an interesting/important sounding title on an interesting/important topic, then click the link and see an article or web page that maybe is just not worth my time.

I'd be curious how many people upvote a link here without reading the cited article/page?

All of which is sad and speaks to general problems with media today, with AI garbage, of course, probably about to make it worse. But regarding the fediverse and lemmy, I think it maybe raises interesting questions.

Obviously the idea of a link aggregator is to seek out and share "the good stuff". But maybe talking about where that generally comes from needs to be a more prominent and open question? Or maybe I need to subscribe to fewer news communities? More ambitiously though, maybe, at least over time, it will get more important or valuable to lean into the forum-like or even blog-like aspect of lemmy where it's increasingly all about the "OC" here, especially as engaging with actual humans with actual personal thoughts gets more and more valuable over time? Could private, maybe even invite-only communities even be of value here?

Thoughts?

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Now that the PRs have been mostly merged, here's what the LemmyUI contribution graph looked like after Reddit went garbage overnight

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Hey everyone, I figured that some new users might not know that comments and posts have a formatting standard called Markdown.
In simple terms, Markdown is a (semi)universal language that uses formatting symbols to give a certain style to a portion of text.
This quick guide can help you to write in a way that's more appealing and easy to read.

FORMATTING SYNTAX EXAMPLE
New line put two spaces at the end of the line you want to break Line__
New paragraph return two times at the end of the paragraph Line↵↵
Horizontal rule between each paragraph put three "-" or "*" ***
Bold put your text between two "**" or "__" **Bold** or __Bold__
Italic put your text between two "*" or "_" *Italic* or _Italic_
~Sub~script put your text between two "~" ~Subscript~
^Super^script put your text between two "^" ^Superscript^
Inline code put your text between two "`" `sudo rm -rf /`
Headings and Titles put one or more "#" at the beginning of the line # Headings for level 1, ## Headings for level 2...
Blockquotes put ">" at the beginning of the line > Blockquote
Links put the the text between [ ] and the link between ( ) [Links]( https://piped.video/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ )
Images Images like links but you put "!" before the first square bracket ![Images]( https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/fa6d9660-4f1f-4e90-ac73-b897216db6f3.png?format=webp&thumbnail=96 )

You can also do unordered lists using "-" at the beginning of each line:

- Salt
- Potatoes
- Beans

will become

  • Salt
  • Potatoes
  • Beans

Or ordered list by putting "1." at the beginning of each line:

1. Salt
2. Potatoes
3. Beans

will become

  1. Salt
  2. Potatoes
  3. Beans

You can save other users from spoilers by encasing a paragraph between a section that starts with ":::" followed by a space and the word "spoiler" + the title of the spoiler and ends with ":::". The spoiler will be hidden inside a menu and you'll be able to see it if you click on it

warning! spoiler!
the butler did it

will become

warning! spoiler!the butler did it


In the end you can also format big code blocks by putting "```" at the beginning and at the end of each paragraph

```
println("Hello World!")
```

will become

    println("Hello World!")  

Last but not least remember that you can always use break formatting syntax by putting "\" in front of a character:
so if I want "^" in my text without having the rest of the paragraph in superscript, I'm simply going to write "\^"


Now go and have fun!

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Hello

I am happy on this instance and 2 other federated instances that take good care of the culture by not federating with some other instances.

Yet sometimes I wonder what the "firehose of trash" would be like if I would see really everything and am wondering if there is a "catch all" Instance that is not limiting anything at all?

I would like to take a peek down the abyss for once.

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Due to variable subject length and these items being part of the same line as the subject they get pushed around a lot which makes them hard to see find when scrolling through history.

Would be nice if these links / scores where at the front of the subject OR the "next line" to be consistent.

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The fediverse isn’t going anywhere, and just getting started!

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A few weeks ago Lemmy was buggy on computers and there were no good mobile clients out there, now on PC the site is pretty stable and fast, and there are now some pretty good iOS/Android clients too. Thanks to all the people who made this possible!

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First, I want to say how great it is to see success in a social media platform not owned by some giant cooperation. That said, right now we are at a turning point where we can still change the platform in major ways and I think we all have a shared interested in Lemmy becoming the best it could be.

Let's face it, Reddit had many problems even before the API changes. The toxic herd mentality, over and under moderation at the same time, small posts getting drowned out by already big ones and so much more. As you probably are already aware of, social media can quickly end in filter bubbles, extremization and bringing out the worst of the human psyche. These are not problems simply fixed by better moderation. Rather, these are problems resulting from the engagement driven design of most platforms (Post controversial statement -> many comments -> Post gets delivered to more people -> even more engagement -> ...) I want Lemmy to be a place that brings people together instead of dividing us apart.

Therefore, I wanna start a conversation on what design changes Lemmy should implement in the future to make sure the platform remains humane and everyone can engage in respectful conversations.

I think a good starting point are the recourses of the Center for Humane Technology, like their course on Foundations of Humane Technology

I'm looking forward to hearing your opinions and ideas on this :)

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