@Lemminary Not sure where I initially heard it, but I think I just came across it randomly in a comment or blog. I'm sure somewhere is some docs there's the info though. Tested it a while back though and confirmed it works.
@ekZepp They're sorta bridged in the sense that if you @ a lemmy community from other ActivityPub software it'll post to the community. It's the same protocol, though a different enough implementation that it acts a lot like a bridge. The first line acts as the title, then the rest of the post is the body.
@Themadbeagle I get what you're saying, and don't get me wrong I've experienced firsthand the jank of multiple interacting protocols (and differing implementations of the same one), but I think the single standardized protocol ship sailed when ActivityPub came around during OStatus's reign. A lot of software decided to support both (and many still do), and while I wasn't a part of the ecosystem then, I'm guessing users of both protocols benefited a lot from being interconnected instead of siloed.
We've currently got three big protocols - AT at tens of millions, ActivityPub and Nostr at millions - in addition to a half dozen smaller protocols with thousands of users. My personal take is that a continued ability to interact with almost everybody on all of them is a net positive rather than try to silo everybody and force a winner.
Especially because, unless Meta gets their federation act together, AT (BlueSky) is shaping up to be the big protocol. They've made some big strides towards decentralization in the last year or so, but even in a perfect implementation it'd still be fairly centralized compared to the other big two.
@sabreW4K3 The way I see it is that AT/BlueSky has a lot of potential as a finished ecosystem, but it's far from completed and even if it's completed well it won't be as decentralized as the other big protocols. It's still got 25x the people as something like ActivityPub or Nostr though, so I'm coming at this from the perspective that I don't necessarily want to make BlueSky my home base of decentralized protocols, but interconnectivity still would let me communicate with anybody on the bigger platforms.
How dare you one more software to the pool of interacting softwares and protocols
@crimeschneck Personally I've decreased my Lemmy usage a lot due to its echo chambery-ness. I avoided the political subs since day one, both since I'm personally not a big politics junkie and because I'm not in alignment with Lemmy's specific brand of politics, but things also extend to other topics as well.
A lot of the enjoyment of using Lemmy is getting news/articles and seeing what people think, but even in the tech spaces the range of tech news is somewhat limited and the top comments are almost always in line with Lemmy's specific tech thoughts (regardless of my agreement, I'd like to see interesting thoughts/commentary, if I can predict the theme of what's said it becomes less interesting). Sorting by new did help a little, even if a dissenting but well thought out idea was downvoted to oblivion I could still read it - but the value of link aggregators to me is articles + strangers thoughts, and if all the strangers have the same thoughts then I might as well stick with RSS.
My 2c anyways.
@Sunshine I've shared my thoughts a couple times in similar threads 1 and 2, but to summarize:
One reason is because I think other protocols have some advantages. AT is better end user ease of use wise, and plans to let you control your account via a keypair (already possible with your own PDS). Nostr is more heavily decentralized and considerably more flexible than the other two. That can siphon off existing users or have new users drawn to those spaces. Not to say that ActivityPub doesn't also have its own advantages too, but everybody has different preferences and there's now more choice.
There's also some Activity Pub specific toxicity issues. Too aggressive defederation leads to a point where you can't communicate with most people, and there's some opinions in the space that have turned some people away.
But of course things go up and down, and are never a strait line. I'm guessing all three big protocols will continue to grow, and as they get more interconnected everybody wins, and even if Activity Pub has hit a slump the ecosystem of people you can talk to using it has grown 10x+.
Outside if summarizing my previous takes, there have been some new(ish) things I've seen that don't quite sit right. Things from the top down like the social web director refusing to go to conferences that people from other protocols will be present and encouraging people to not even talk about other protocols. Or - anicdotally - seeing random users happy that the influxes are going to others because they don't want 'normies' on Activity Pub or declaring anybody still using Twitter/X a Nazi sympathizer if not an outright Nazi. If the Activity Pub scene is getting really protectionist it could start also having a negative effect.
Again, overall I expect it to continue trending upwards, and there's a plethora of factors that are unrelated to anything negative regarding Activity Pub's community, but the above (and previous two posts) are the stuff I figured worth bringing up and potentially factors in why ActivityPub has seen weaker adoption compared to the other two big ones more recently.
@VanHalbgott I like friendica, it works with Lemmy, microblogging platforms, and macroblogging platforms. I'm maybe not online as much as the average user (and often read fediverse content via bridges instead of nativly), so it's a nice consolation of everything. It also supports rich text and higher char limits for more nuanced posts/replies.
@dameoutlaw Sure
Readme is overdue to actually be finished, but the script itself is working. Can be run locally on desktop or termux, though some clients on desktop need a custom host added since they don't like localhost and amethyst only uses it if you don't add it as a local relay.
@5teverin0 @SharkAttak The lines kinda blur in some places, but mostly just no max post length, text formatting, and a layout that more resembles a blog as apposed to a twitter profile (tags/categories, about page, that sort of stuff). You also usually get a domain or sub domain (example.com or user.example.com respectively) instead of just a handle (e.g. example.com/@user) so that it's easier to use as an independent website.
@ColonelThirtyTwo Sorta/mostly. The protocol has a bit of a different model then Activity Pub, and it's in development so there are some limitations, but it's been opened and there's people hosting their own PDSs now (the part of Bluesky that hosts your account).
To my knowledge there's only two AT relays (the part that aggregates content from PDSs), Bluesky itself and very recently frontpage (a link aggregator). That makes the network fairly centralized right now, although BlueSky/AT has made a lot of progress in the last 9 months in terms of opening up so I expect it'll be a lot less centralized this time next year. I'm also betting that somebody will make an AT client that pulls posts directly from PDSs instead of going through a relay at some point.
@nanook "Pubcrawl" is what you're looking for. Probably not the best SEO optimized name if you don't know it by name, but works well afaik.
@tomatol If Nomadic identities get implemented then yes, I've heard there were somepeople working towards it but haven't heard much since.
Still, not sure I'd be to comfortable using a Fediverse server (especially one not hosted by me) for my identity. I've already lost an account to a SQL database dying, and some swaths of the fediverae are rather quick to ban or defederate.
Nostr and AT do it pretty well, though, using a key pair you control to sign into other services using your account. If something were attempted on the Fediverse this would probably be the best way to go about it.