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That's my understanding as well, with some "Roman" origin claimed, possibly as propaganda given how the Nazi party liked connecting themselves to ancient Rome as some kind of claim to legitimacy.

I'd love to be able to add the Bellamy salute inspiration bit in when I do have this conversation with folks, but I'd need a better source before I do.

Zero argument on the larger point of Hitler's idolization of America (the worst bits), quite familiar with it already. Hitler also admired Jim Crow laws and wrote about them specifically.

My point is that I've never encountered a reliable source to the specific claim that the Nazi salute took inspiration from the Bellamy salute, rather than being coincidentally similar. The wiki page linked even purports the origin of the Nazi salute to be the "Roman salute", albeit itself based on bad history.

It's a point I'd love to be able to make when having this same argument with folks, but I'm not going to tell people that the Nazi salute was based on the Bellamy salute without a better source than a Wikipedia article that claims otherwise.

Your link does not support your claim

Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, which originated with the so-called Roman salute, a gesture falsely attributed to ancient Rome.

Do you know of any other accounts that would support the Bellamy salute as being the inspiration for the Nazi salute, apart from looking similar?

Well I suppose you could always whine about it online instead?

It costs you nothing to register as a Dem so you can vote against these fuckers in the primaries, except maybe some worthless sense of idealogical purity.

Fetterman as a Democratic frontrunner for 2028? Ya that's about the level of disingenuous bullshit I'd expect to be peddled by the Daily Mail

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this is wild oversimplification

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Except no one is entitled to talent either, and that's the unspoken presumption unpinning all of this. The fact that the entire technology is built off of the unethical use of other's art just reinforces the entitlement of it all.

probably a typo or auto-correct mistake for "camping fuel", which I've seen mentioned in other sources

yo what the fuck, that is bullshit