john89

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Yeah, no. You might want to look into a 'crab mentality' and see how much you and your peers exhibit it.

Gonna block you now.

Keep doing whatever you can to avoid holding women accountable for anything.

That's how we treat them like children.

I can tell you're upset because I'm saying things you don't like. It's okay, I see it all the time and don't expect more from you people on these forums.

Goodbye. Easy block.

Don't care how I "come across."

It's part of being able to think for myself.

I fully-expect people like you to react the way you are whenever you see it; that's how bad it's gotten.

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Genuinely feels like feminists come here just to argue with men, lol.

Goodbye.

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Easy block.

It's a cultural problem and it requires cultural solutions.

We need to value different things, and that's purposefully vague because it applies to so many aspects of our lives.

I've recently been thinking of it as a 'war on modesty,' which is what we need to see value in in order to fight back against consumerism.

Do more with less. Appreciate what we have. Those kinds of things.

It's unfortunate that these basic suggestions could solve such major problems, but I believe that's how far we've strayed from the truth.

Patriarchy and capitalism go hand in hand. We are still saying the same thing.

They are related, but not the same. We are not saying the same thing.

You do not know what those words mean.

Ironic, considering you seem to literally believe capitalism and patriarchy mean the same thing.

You take it as patronizing because it would be silly for you to not know what that word means.

I take it as patronizing because it is and I've dealt with your kind before.

I am going to have to block you now, though, without reading the rest of your drivel.

Re-read my previous comments if you have any further misunderstandings or still believe we are in agreement. We are not and you are being willfully ignorant if you think otherwise.

You may have the last word. I can tell you're dying for it.

Yes, exactly.

Although I will agree with you that there are women out there that feel as though they are 'owed' something due to the historical treatment of women.

Not really. I'm referring to women enjoying the benefits they get from having others do the work for them.

Trying to argue that they can't enjoy this without some overarching control is just reinforcing the idea that women can't think for themselves.

Good job doing your part to reinforce the idea that women should be treated like children.