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Says the one actually doing a whole nazi salute, buying presidency despite not being able to hold office due to nationality, carving up entire programs and departments in a very incompetent way, and attempting to shamelessly buy a seat in the supreme court.

And that's not mentioning how I personally believe he may be doing all this due to his God-Iron-Man-Savior complex which makes him believe he'll be remembered as a modern messiah. Notice how he's revived his desire to put mankind on Mars, and by next year no less. He knows under current laws he'd at best help pave the way to Mars, but not live to enjoy it himself. "Maybe if I change the whole rulebook - in the end despite the suffering they'll thank and revere me", I bet.

Poor Elon. I bet he's crying right now for being a misjudged angel, drying his tears in green paper.

More meat for the meat grinder. And unlike Ukrainians Russia does have a choice to stop the war - all they need to do is stop and leave.

Ukrainians die to protect their homeland against invasion. Russians die for needless oligarchic aspirations of dominion of the elite. It's not the same thing for either side, as many like to make it seem as if Ukraine has any responsibility in the matter.

Any loss of life on Russia's side is completely optional, and due to Putin's whims. Not that it matters to the vultures surrounding Ukraine.

It's like he's running a "tell me you're Trump without telling me you're Trump" contest. Like, he isn't saying it openly but each time his actions speak the quiet part out loud.

I'd laugh if it wasn't a serious matter. And if it wasn't the pot calling the kettle black about the liberals and their side of the media.

If that simplistic and dismissive view is your take on the whole Ukraine defending their sovereignty against a foreign invader...

Then Doktor Jidanbo prescribes you with less Fox News consumption - as 9/10 dentists say it clouds judgement.

Stopping the 'meat grinder' is actually very simple. All that needs to happen is for Russia to stop attacking Ukraine and leave Ukrainian soil. All Russia needs to do is wanting to actually end it, which is the part all the greedy vultures wanting to carve up Ukraine conveniently leave out.

I rather die a proud fighter who fought my oppressors than live in misery while they gleefully take what's mine, and my loved ones. Capitulating to bullies only leads to more bloodshed. Standing up to them and making them regret their barbaric ways is how you actually stop them.

Take that any way you want, as that's all I'm gonna say.

Where's Trump and his "young, brave men"? You know, that speech. The one aimed at Zelensky stating he should just stop the war and stop being desperate by conscripting more people for the defense effort?

Eh, must have left it in the same place he left the "Zelensky is a dictator" comment after he was asked if Putin was also a dictator.

So whataboutism, distorting my words to suit your point and strawmen are your answers. Good to know rather early this conversation isn't going anywhere, since both of us will always be right and wrong at the same time, according to each other.

One crook or two facing consequences does not excuse all the others that consistently get away. Specially the ones we don't even know about. She's just "the one that was caught this time", with plenty more in line like her waiting for their chance to succeed where she could not. And your willingness to see her "not-reward" as if it was an actual punishment written in the law for her crimes speaks volumes - to the point it makes me wonder what potential role or benefit you're getting (or hoping to get) from such a system. And before you twist my words to say you're "not french", or "not a politician", know that what I'm saying goes way beyond one person, one position or one nation, so that logic won't cut it.

Almost makes me think you're primed to automatically defend scum like her no matter how corrupt she was. Anyways I don't think this will be a productive discussion for either of us, so forgive me for not participating further.

Cheers.

"Not being president" is not a punishment. Just the absence of a reward for her corruption. If the worst she had was "not being rewarded", then what stops every other crook from attempting to seize power?

Absence of a reward is not a consequence for breaking the rules. A consequence for breaking the law is the actual punishment, and that also serves as a warning to any other people wanting to do the same.

That's what's wrong with the system we currently have, and I'm glad at least she got prison out of it. Leniency is what got us here. There's got to be actual hard consequences for mocking the system. Rules are only as good as the willingness to apply consequences for breaking them. It's that simple.

The worst thing in this statement is "could" - "could end her career".

A system that doesn't automatically provide real consequences and makes an example of the criminal is a corrupt system in itself. There shouldn't even be a 'could' in a so-called 'fair and free system'.

And this isn't just France, by far. Cheers from the Banana Republic known as Portugal, quite the paradise for corrupt politicians.

Good. Still, any real consequences for her? Like prison time? Or will she be granted the usual politician/millionaire+ special treatment and just go on with her merry life minus the extra power?

Reminds me of Portugal's former PM (Mr. Socrates), a few years ago, and 'his' 20M€. Or the convicted felon running the White House currently.

"What do you mean I'm exaggerating by beating this trash >insert minority here<?

C'mon man, be civil towards your fellow brothers and sisters and stop overreacting"

*Some fascist nut, probably

Putin: Hey Krasnov, it's becoming too obvious. Tone it down a little, I'll even give you permission to say you are angry at me. Don't forget papa bear still loves you. 🥰🍆🍒

I guess she could always seek out a position of leadership at the EU, like von der Leyen or Costa.

Supposedly a safe haven for crooked politicians who failed their respective countries before their people had enough of them.

Greetings from ~~Costaland~~ Portugal.