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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

My mind went to that paper, too.

It made me rethink exactly what collapse would look like on a societal level:

The "little" klaxons are constantly blaring, but now I think we will get less "proper" warning signs than I had expected before we're in over our heads. The places we expect to starve will starve, and then rather suddenly the richer countries will joining them too. Not much of an in-between phase.

Everything is generally (and "properly") fucked up right now, but even so I'm not sure that most of us really appreciate what we've got. I know I can still find it a challenge sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Is what I'm always telling myself. (And thankfully, I got 'em.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Our results show that achieving the Paris Agreement goal of a 2 ∘C temperature increase is only feasible for low emission scenarios and if ECS is lower than 3.5 ∘C. With an ECS of 5 ∘C, peak warming in all considered scenarios more than doubles compared to an ECS of 3 ∘C. Approximately 50% of this additional warming is attributed to positive climate–carbon cycle feedbacks with comparable contributions from CO2 and CH4.

Improved knowledge of glacial-to-interglacial global temperature change yields Charney (fast-feedback) equilibrium climate sensitivity 1.2 ± 0.3°C (2σ) per W/m2, which is 4.8°C ± 1.2°C for doubled CO2.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

New friends! :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Good summary on the topic. Concise, but technical enough to give it gravitas. And it starts with a great ELI5:

Daniel Yergin argues this isn’t a transition but an energy addition—renewables are stacking on top of still-growing fossil fuel use. Net zero isn’t happening.

While theoretically industry demands can eventually be met with a mostly electrified grid, it is a very long way out. The article only touched on it but in many places all of the transmission lines would need to be upgraded. And then each industry would need revamped. Furnaces are being electrified, but not overnight. These are long-term, capital-intensive processes.

You also can't simply add solar panels to a grid (even after upgrading the lines), you have to have backup ready to keep the grid parameters nominal - which is usually LNG because it is ideal for turning on and off quickly. The hope is that batteries can take over but that's not going to happen any time soon. There's too many gaps, too many expenses, and not enough global cooperation. So we use LNG which gives us another excuse to extract and even subsidize more oil. I guess it's better than coal or more oil, but not by much.

The only thing that is going to make a difference here is curbing demand. Obviously that is easier said than done, but it's the unfortunate truth imo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

These were cool graphics:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don’t agree better communication will help at all. It doesn’t overcome willful ignorance and stupidity.

I believe language is powerful, and lack of appropriate language can be a real impediment.

However I have to agree with you that better communication won't help in this case, but not because of "stupidity." Modern society is constructed to subject us, including training us to become the perfect subjects. And if you don't buy into your life becomes much more difficult.

A superego control system built on Id-like manipulation (starvation, imprisonment, poverty, shunning) presides over us and often dictates that we go against our better interests, in service of capital and successional powers.

There are many smart people around us imo, wearing masks wrought in fear. Popular society is like a cult, and the rat race is real. Fall behind - or stick out - too much and you'll find yourself in a meatgrinder.

In some cases I think maturation of wisdom and intelligence is literally inhibited because of the pressures against it. "Curiosity killed the cat," "the good die young," the warnings are abound. Writ in literal blood no doubt. Which all seems absurdly dystopian to me but I digress.

These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:

I get the attitude but I don't think "stupidity" is a good way to frame anything. It's being edgy for the sake of attention and that's not going to help anything.

  1. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

The definition of stupidity is not productive. There are many reasons why a person would act in a way leading to these outcomes such as a lack of education, and they are remediable. However claiming that...

A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.

...promotes essentialism of this concept of stupidity, creating a framework wherein the stupid cannot be separated from the person. This won't lead anyone toward fixing the situation by addressing issues like lack of access to good education, food access, and healthcare - it only leads toward these "stupid" people becoming victims of oppression and crime.

As for the article posted...

There has been some backlash to the idea of the polycrisis. The historian Niall Ferguson has described it as “just history happening”. The political scientist Daniel Drezner says its proponents “assume the existence of powerful negative feedback effects that may not actually exist” – in other words, when crises overlap, the outcome might not always be bad (for instance, the pandemic lockdowns might have had some short-lived environmental benefits). Some point to past crises as evidence that what we are experiencing is not new.

These are secular ways to say "We can't know everything so I'm just going to let Jesus take the wheel." Or perhaps, "I can't bring myself to confront the consequences of my lifestyle, so I'm just going to let Jesus take the wheel."

 

We and coauthors2 interpret that uniquely large warming as being due about equally to a moderate El Nino and reduction of ship aerosols, with a smaller contribution from the present solar maximum (our entire paper, including Abstract & Supplementary Material is available in a single compressed PDF here). An “acid” test of our interpretation will be provided by the 2025 global temperature: unlike the 1997-98 and 2015-16 El Ninos, which were followed by global cooling of more than 0.3°C and 0.2°C, respectively, we expect global temperature in 2025 to remain near or above the 1.5°C level. Indeed, the 2025 might even set a new record despite the present weak La Nina. There are two independent reasons. First, the “new” climate forcing due to reduction of sulfate aerosols over the ocean remains in place, and, second, high climate sensitivity (~4.5°C for doubled CO2) implies that the warming from recently added forcings is still growing significantly.

mmm, acid

 

edit: This is older than I realized (2023/2024), but it's still interesting so I'll keep it up.

the researchers say this means that much more methane could potentially be vulnerable and released into the atmosphere as a result of climate warming

The new data clearly show that far larger volumes of methane may be liberated from marine hydrates**___**

 

Interesting work here.

Another (small) piece to add to the AMOC puzzle.

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These have been going on for a few days and reportedly the Santa Ana winds are going to be heightened again for another day or so.

I didn't see a post about the fires and I'm not aware of a great article that captures the full story so I'm posting what I could find.


L.A. had a very dry second half of 2024 and now the dry winds are coming down from the desert which creates extremely hazardous conditions.

Winds swept embers far ahead of the fires which caused rapid spread. Some of the fires drove past the Wildland-Urban Interface and into fully residential areas.

There have been reports of arson and even arrests but personally I think trying to displace the blame onto people - in particular the underclass - is a social reaction many people and I'll wait for solid evidence. At the very least, it seems clear to me that arson would be unnecessary and insufficient to explain the scale of the fires so the big story should be the conditions that enabled fire and ember cast and grounded air support.

Now, with so much material burnt - organic and synthetic - air quality has been periodically terrible throughout the county (largely depending on the winds from what I've read). I've seen a few comments saying the AQI number isn't sufficiently capturing the air quality (that it is poorer than the AQI indicates). I don't think I've heard that before but I plan to keep it in mind.

Meanwhile insurers have been pulling out of the region, and the growing lender of last resort - the state iirc - has a cap that is limited compared to some of the places that have been destroyed. There is currently discussion going on about how burdened the plan might be and how it will be handled.


Feel free to discuss anything about the wildfires here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Birds are disappearing, jungles are disappearing, wetlands are disappearing. The biosphere is decaying.

Most people reading this will not feel the effect much yet, but many people out there are already living the consequences. But they don't have much to sell us and they don't have camera phones everywhere, so they're invisible to us. Just as invisible as the wildlife.

I really do think the natural feedback loops - in particular methane emissions - will soon dictate the climate conversation. We won't be scrambling to reach zero emissions any more, we will be scrambling to develop environmental GHG capture and other terraforming (lol) technologies as a last resort. We'll chase the solution long after the experts realize it was a pipe dream like in that one space movie.

China has done incredible work toward a green transition in recent years. But they can only do so much about saving the Amazon, saving the Everglades, saving the Antarctic, saving the Congo Basin, and so on. And the same goes for anyone else who would put in the effort. Almost all of us need to take this seriously and focus our societies on it or else it doesn't matter if a few do, too much of the planet will be destroyed for the remaining parts to escape their own devastation. And then there's the issue of developing a nation's economic and industrial base enough to support a transition without destroying the environment in the process.

So anyway I'm not very optimistic! The more we look at the methane situation the worse it gets. And while I think it is important if biosphere destruction affects anyone (which it already does), it appears that soon it will affect everyone. And yet I'm expecting it to drive us further apart rather than closer together.

Nothing short of refocusing the productivity and economic organization of our entire planet - along with a readjustment of cultural norms - is likely to control the situation imo. (That or maybe immediate industrial collapse.) And I would still be worried even then!

You can't rewind damage to the biosphere. It's usually a non-reversible process with loads of downstream effects. And although it is easy to forget, the rest of nature is much bigger than all of us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

But we never were a particularly smart species, weren’t we?

Just smart enough to be dangerous!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I expect that we're getting dangerously close to the point where natural feedback loops begin to outpace human contributions to global warming.

 

[...]

For days, the city of 14 million people has been enveloped by smog, a mix of fog and pollutants caused by low-grade diesel fumes, smoke from seasonal agricultural burning and winter cooling.

The air quality index, which measures a range of pollutants, exceeded 1,000 on Saturday—well above the level of 300 considered "dangerous"—according to data from IQAir. The Punjab government also recorded peaks of over 1,000 on Sunday, which it considered "unprecedented".

"Weather forecast for the next six days shows that wind patterns will remain the same. Therefore we are closing all government and private primary schools in Lahore for a week," Jahangir Anwar, a senior environmental protection official in Lahore told AFP.

[...]

"This smog is very harmful for children. Masks should be mandatory in schools. We are keeping an eye on the health of children in senior classes," Punjab senior minister Marriyum Aurangzeb told a news conference Sunday.

Smog counters have been established in hospitals, she added.

Breathing the toxic air has catastrophic health consequences, with the WHO saying strokes, heart disease, lung cancer and respiratory diseases can be triggered by prolonged exposure.

[...]

Government offices and private companies will have half their staff work from home starting Monday.

Children are particularly vulnerable because they have less developed lungs and breathe more rapidly, taking in more air relative to their size than adults.

Last month, authorities banned schoolchildren from outdoor exercise until January and adjusted school hours to prevent children from traveling when the pollution is most punishing.

Pollution in excess of levels deemed safe by the WHO shortens the life expectancy of Lahore residents by an average of 7.5 years, according to the University of Chicago's Energy Policy Institute.

According to UNICEF, nearly 600 million children in South Asia are exposed to high levels of air pollution and half of childhood pneumonia deaths are associated with air pollution.

 

Signs that progress was lacking were clear from the outset of the meeting, with nearly all countries missing a deadline to submit official plans on how they will achieve the ambitious biodiversity targets set two years ago at COP15, including protecting 30 per cent of the planet’s land and oceans by 2030. A few more of these plans trickled in during the two weeks of the summit, including those from large countries like India and Argentina, but most countries’ strategies are still missing.

Going into COP16, it was clear the world is not on track to hit those targets. Since 2020, the area of the planet’s land and oceans under formal protections has increased just 0.5 per cent, according to a UN report released during the summit. That is a rate far too slow to protect 30 per cent of the planet by the end of the decade.

[...]

Many lower-income countries said their failure to develop and submit plans by the deadline, let alone to begin carrying them out, was due to a dearth of financial resources. COP16 did see higher-income countries make pledges – totalling about $400 million – to help these efforts, but funds remain billions short of the $20 billion annual goal promised by 2025.

[...]

Although COP16’s failure to move the needle on finance disappointed observers, the meeting did manage one key agreement: a deal on how to collect revenue from products developed using the planet’s genetic data. Before the meeting was suspended, countries agreed to urge pharmaceutical and other biotech companies that use such “digital sequence information” to contribute 0.1 per cent of revenue or 1 per cent of profits to a “Cali Fund”. This fund will be used to protect the biodiversity that is the source of such genetic data.

Submitter's note: It seems this voluntary tax is expected to support primarily indigenous populations. But without funding for biodiversity protection plans, habitat destruction will continue largely unabated. The voluntary tax itself would be woefully insufficient for empowering local populations to protect their ecosystems or their traditional lifestyles.

[...] UN estimates suggest the fund could raise up to a billion dollars a year for biodiversity. “It might raise some, but at nowhere near the scale or speed required,” says Pierre du Plessis, a long-time negotiator for the African Union.

[...]

[T]he overall mood was dour. “A real shame of COP16 is that [debates on] digital sequence information sucked up the last drops of energy and time,” says Amber Scholz at the Leibniz Institute DSMZ in Germany.

One reason for the apparent lack of urgency is that the world treats climate change and biodiversity loss as two separate issues. The annual global climate summits are better attended and receive far more attention than the biodiversity negotiation – only six heads of state attended COP16, compared with the 154 who went to last year’s climate summit in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. That is a problem when the two issues are intertwined: climate change is one of the main threats to biodiversity, and the most biodiverse ecosystems are often also the best at storing carbon.

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Abstract


Recent reports from climate scientists stress the urgency to implement more ambitious and stringent climate policies to stay below the 1.5 °C Paris Agreement target. These policies should simultaneously aim to ensure distributional justice throughout the process. A neglected yet potentially effective policy instrument in this context is rationing. However, the political feasibility of rationing, like any climate policy instrument, hinges to a large extent on the general public being sufficiently motivated to accept it. This study reports the first cross-country analysis of the public acceptability of rationing as a climate policy instrument by surveying 8654 individuals across five countries—Brazil, Germany, India, South Africa, and the US—on five continents. By comparing the public acceptability of rationing fossil fuels and high climate-impact foods with consumption taxes on these goods, the results reveal that the acceptability of fossil fuel rationing is on par with that of taxation, while food taxation is preferred over rationing across the countries. Respondents in low-and middle-income countries and those expressing a greater concern for climate change express the most favourable attitudes to rationing. As political leaders keep struggling to formulate effective and fair climate policies, these findings encourage a serious political and scientific dialogue about rationing as a means to address climate change and other sustainability-related challenges.


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Researchers from Japan and Thailand investigating microplastics in coral have found that all three parts of the coral anatomy—surface mucus, tissue, and skeleton—contain microplastics. The findings were made possible thanks to a new microplastic detection technique developed by the team and applied to coral for the first time.

These findings may also explain the "missing plastic problem" that has puzzled scientists, where about 70% of the plastic litter that has entered the oceans cannot be found. The team hypothesizes that coral may be acting as a "sink" for microplastics by absorbing it from the oceans. Their findings were published in the journal Science of the Total Environment.

[...]

As for types of microplastics, the team found that nylon, polyacetylene, and polyethylene terephthalate (PET) were the three most prevalent, accounting for 20.11%, 14.37%, and 9.77%, respectively, of the identified samples.

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