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[–] ebu@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"the media sucks at factchecking DeepSeek's claims" is... an interesting attempt at refuting the idea that DeepSeek's claims aren't entirely factual. beyond that, intentionally presenting true statements that lead to false impressions is a kind of dishonesty regardless. if you mean to argue that DeepSeek wasn't being underhanded at all and just very innocently presented their figures without proper context (that just so happened to spurn a media frenzy in their favor)... then i have a bridge to sell you.

besides that, OpenAI is very demonstrably pissing away at least that much money every time they add one to the number at the end of their slop generator

[–] ebu@awful.systems 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

consider this paragraph from the Wall Street Journal:

DeepSeek said training one of its latest models cost $5.6 million, compared with the $100 million to $1 billion range cited last year by Dario Amodei, chief executive of the AI developer Anthropic, as the cost of building a model.

you're arguing to me that they technically didn't lie -- but it's pretty clear that some people walked away with a false impression of the cost of their product relative to their competitors' products, and they financially benefitted from people believing in this false impression.

[–] ebu@awful.systems 22 points 4 months ago (15 children)

i think you're missing the point that "Deepseek was made for only $6M" has been the trending headline for the past while, with the specific point of comparison being the massive costs of developing ChatGPT, Copilot, Gemini, et al.

to stretch your metaphor, it's like someone rolling up with their car, claiming it only costs $20 (unlike all the other cars that cost $20,000), when come to find out that number is just how much it costs to fill the gas tank up once

[–] ebu@awful.systems 5 points 5 months ago

i would love to read someone more familiar with historical fascism and imperialism who is able to articulate the link between the two. like, an analysis of imperialism as the construction and maintenance of borders across which exploitation is enforced and economic value is extracted -- paired with the observation of fascism as the attempts to construct borders "across peoples" from within the imperial core

[–] ebu@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago

i wonder which endocrine systems are disrupted by not having your head sufficiently stuffed into a toilet before being old enough to type words into nazitter dot com

[–] ebu@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago

if you put this paragraph

Corporations institute barebones [crappy product] that [works terribly] because they can't be bothered to pay the [production workers] to actually [produce quality products] but when shit goes south they turn around and blame the [workers] for a bad product instead of admitting they cut corners.

and follow it up with "It's China Syndrome"... then it's pretty astonishingly clear it is meant in reference to the perceived dominant production ideology of specifically China and has nothing to do with nuclear reactors

[–] ebu@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

A WELL TRAINED AI can be a very useful tool.

please do elaborate on exactly what kind of training turns the spam generator into a prescription-writer, or whatever other task that isn't generating spam

Edit: to add this is partly why AI gets a bad rap from folks on the outside looking it.

i'm pretty sure "normal" folks hate it because of all the crap it's unleashed upon the internet, and not just because they didn't use the most recent models off the "Hot" tab on HuggingFace

It's China Syndrome but instead of nuclear reactors it's AI.

what are we a bunch of ASIANS?!?!???

[–] ebu@awful.systems 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

the post is fake regardless, its just another rightwing shitpost account. doubt there's a kid at all

[–] ebu@awful.systems 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
[–] ebu@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

f4mi's channel is fantastic btw, fun little deep dives on old hardware and games. highly recommend checking her stuff out

[–] ebu@awful.systems 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

"blame the person, not the tools" doesn't work when the tools' marketing team is explicitly touting said tool as a panacea for all problems. on the micro scale, sure, the wedding planner is at fault, but if you zoom out even a tiny bit it's pretty obvious what enabled them to fuck up for as long and as hard as they did

[–] ebu@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago

good longpost, i approve

honestly i wouldn't be surprised if some AI companies weren't cheating at AI metrics with little classically-programmed, find-and-replace programs. if for no other reason than i think the idea of some programmer somewhere being paid to browse twitter on behalf of OpenAI and manually program exceptions for "how many months does it take 9 women to make 1 baby" is hilarious

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