Teknevra

Islamic thought is reduced to Muslim thought, whereby Muslims can only explain what it means to be Muslim.

While there are dozens of studies on Christian and Eastern thinkers and how they contribute to understanding what it means to be human, rare is the case where a Muslim voice is allowed to speak beyond its religious identity.

And in the cases where a Muslim voice is allowed to speak beyond its Orientalist void, such as Rumi, it is rendered neutral of its Muslimness"

Assalamu alaikum,

I've found the situation after the Iran-Israel conflict to be much worse than I could imagine, especially on social media in my country, Indonesia.

This YouTube channel one of the example:

The hate speech towards Shia Muslims is worsening, usually fueled by Wahhabi clerics and Turkey sympathizers.

They even label Shias as "kafir" and claim that anyone who dies in the war, whether Iranian or Israeli, will meet the same fate in hell.

I can understand if they criticize the Iranian authoritarian government, but I still can't comprehend the hatred towards Shia people just because they belong to a different sect.

It raises questions in my mind: why They're dehumanizing their brothers in Islam?

As we know Allah SWT ordered Ibrahim pbuh to sacrifice his son and in the last moment he stopped him, and Ibrahim was praised for his obedience.

While being obedient to Allah is the best you can do, I feel like it is human to have doubts, or maybe feeling hesitant to kill your own child.

And I wonder if Ibrahim actually had an idea before that this may be a test where Allah would intervene.

I have been wondering for a while now if stuff that has just a small bit of alcohol for preservative purposes.

Like vanilla or soy sauce.

We already discussed the verse about wife beating many times, and mostly came to an agreement that it can't be a physical punishment etc.

But what about lashing (24:2) and house arrest (4:15) as the punishment for adultery?

Do you think it's fair?

Is the common interpretations valid?

If so, why a physical punishment is now justified?

Western media often paints him in a bad light, and stuff such as controversial hadiths aren’t great for his character either.

It’s easy to like Isa because he is presented as a pacifist who never did anyone wrong.

My question is, what made you see Muhammad not only as a good person, but one of the best ever?

What is the Quranic / Islamic view on Adam and how the earth became populated?

In Christianity it’s commonly referred to as Adam’s children marrying each other which doesn’t exactly make sense due to incest.

And it also doesn’t fully align with science and the fact that there were earlier hominids on earth.

From what I gather, the Quran is pretty adamant on Adam being the first human - but how do we reconcile that:

1. It potentially doesn’t align with what we know scientifically about human evolution on earth

And

2. 2 people populating the earth with their children and their children only is incest?

We tend to think of the most religious or most beloved by God as the most outwardly pious person but that’s not how God actually works.

If you look at the stories in the Quran and in the life of Isa, it’s so clear that God isn’t just for the perfect. He’s for the broken, the struggling, the ones who keep messing up but keep coming back.

In the Quran, God is described over and over as the Most Compassionate, the Most Merciful. That mercy(arguably) is for people who need it, not those who’ve already “arrived.”

Isa said he didn’t come for the righteous, but for sinners. He spent his time with the outcasts, the poor, the sick, the people religion had pushed to the side.

So why do we act like religion is only for the flawless? Like God only loves the people who never fall?

And why do we act like gatekeepers to Gods love / acceptance?

I see so many Muslims and Christian’s say that lgbt people are only worthy of love and mercy if they absolutely hate themselves - but most lgbt folks I know distance from God when they hate themselves / contemplate suicide. But when they learn to accept who they are, that’s when they rebuild a relationship with God and become closer to Him.

Note: when I say “we” I mean as a whole, and arguably a lot less in this space or progressive spaces.

The Quran says: “No soul bears the burden of another” (35:18).

But I still wonder… are we paying for Adam’s mistake?

If he hadn’t slipped, would we even be here on Earth?

Just wante dto point out that Islam is not the same as Sharia?

Masses of Muslims never followed the Sharia and never intended to. (lets take for example the Turks/Mongols who still adhered to the Törü when converting to Islam, or all the locals and indogenous people who stayed with their local customs, or many Sufis).

Just as a quick reminder, just because you talk to a Muslim it does not mean that they have revealed anything about their moral or political stance.

When we talk about Islam, we don't necessary engage in a normative moral discussion. We don't discuss law or politics.

I know this is hard to swallow for all the Islamists or those who may ahve grown up among them, because they long for some sort of revolution through "the unification and masses of the unified Ummah" and kinda perceive all the Muslims who literally do not care about any form of social, political or religious revolution, as traitors, but we just don't care. We never promised to help those guys. Its their fault if they beleived they will receive backup from the Ummah. And its their fault if they relied on us in the first place if they never asked us. You can't count on someone to whom you never received a promise or consensus.

And if you think that Islam = Sharia, because 90% of your understanding of Islam is law, then it is up to you to inform yourself about what else exists in that religion you claim to follow.