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[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)
 

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"My beloved Husayn, I foresee you when you will be, in the very near future, covered with your blood, slain at the land of Karbala, while thirsty, being deprived of water. This will be done to you by people who claim that they are from my followers.”

 
 

With the recent win of Zohran Mamdani, it got me thinking on how he won the hearts of people in one of the most popular places on earth, what's even astonishing is the fact New York has the most Jews after Tel-Aviv and with everything that's happening in Gaza, he simply made the unthinkable a reality and progressive phase of Islam has a big role in his victory.

The way he held all communities together regardless of the conflicts and how he managed the heat by presenting himself before any community with the very idea of peace and promising a better future for humanity, this is indeed the very idea of Islam. let me rephrase it "progressive Islam"

Coz currently the ideas that are sold in the name of Islam is very much that of the extremists and is quite literally flawed. Extremists that are the wahabi/salafi community who were born through the betrayal of Islamic world— tbough the Islamic world was weak and had it flaws in its latter stages then but was never anything as the extremists we see today

The extremists right from their bonding with the colonial powers, inherited everything evil they had, which has truly led to the defamation of this very religion as well and there's truly a reason the Arab nations which are all in bed with deep wahabism never ever has tried to save Gaza for once.

They are truly a cult, that never have any true faith nor any politics within them but follows the leaders and scholars who were installed by the kings of their nations, who only works in the best interest of the capitalist clowns of the west as well and that says it all.

And how exactly are the extremists any different from the Zionists— who sees themselves superior to anyone, just like the extremists of this religion who calls anyone that's doesn't comply with them "kuffar" and thinks they are the only version that's gonna enter heaven somehow, how secluded mindset.

Lets not forget, when prophet was the leader of Madinah he used to give the ruling for the Jews based upon their sacred book and for Christians based on Gospels as well and so on for every other minority community and this was the true Islam, the Islam for humanity.

And indeed this is exactly what progressive Islam is as well and Zohran is just the beginning of this very ideology.

 

Not sure if I'm technically Christian anymore, but for the sake of the discussion let's just pretend that I am. I still believe in a soul and a god in any case. I've been reading about determinism, and it really disturbs me. The idea that everything we do is determined solely by a chain of external factors that have happened to us, and we have no hypothetical ability to make any other choice than the one we do.

I see mostly pysicalist atheists argueing for this, but I fail to see how it changes much even if God is in the picture. This means that feeling proud of people, feeling disappointed in people, choosing to be better or to stagnate, being encouraged by people with good hearts or discouraged by people who 'choose' to do evil, and most importantly moral culpability.....it's all an illusion. A practically useful one in our day to day, but an illusion. Courage, justice, choice, compassion, creativity, freedom, all of these concepts that make us human are paper-thin under this framework. We are incapable of choosing our own paths, and we always have been. We were never capable of making different choices. Autonomy isn't real.

Now I don't want this to be true. I want there to be, ultimately, some cohesive self that is capable of making free (not uninfluenced, but free) decisions of whether or not we act in ways that are good or evil, by some complex and unknowable system. But even with the existence of God and a soul taken into account, I can't understand how that could be. Physics or the existence of the spiritual aside, it just becomes a logic problem at a certain point. Either everything we do has a reason, which ultimately has to be external, or the things we do are entirely random.

Which feels pretty bleak. No one can claim ownership of any of their 'decisions,' good or evil. No one can claim they chose to rise above themselves and no one can claim anyone else could have chosen differently when they do something wrong. There is no such thing as responsibility. Who we are is entirely governed by chance. 'Humanity' is mechanical. Does it have to be this way, even under the Christian view? Am I thinking in too severe black and white?

 

Focus on The family as an organization genuinely beyond confuses me.

How in the world are you gonna promote helping families and leading with Jesus example then proceed to refuse service to lgbtq people and call transitioning a "devastating condition"???

How is calling children of gay and lesbian parents "Human guinea pigs in the same sex experiment" ANYTHING LIKE JESUS??

I'm aware there are many Christian organizations that are against lgbtq, duh!

But how does ANYONE no matter belief, think this is a good way to lead??

Maybe its just me, but I dont think this is the way to guide ppl to Christ?

I believe the president Jim Daly said marriage equality is the downfall of civilization.

Again ppl can believe whatever they want to, but I'm really struggling to see where this counts as leading with Jesus' example 😭

 

This is one of the most common criticisms about Christianity that I have heard.

 

BEFORE YOU GUYS START A WAR. PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!!!!

(and Sorry for using the expression “unalive,” but this is important and I need you to read this! And I don't want it to be taken down, so sorry) Recently I found out about the founder of Save a Fox unalived (an organization that saves animals I think) unalived herself. And I told my mom, and what she said was: “Well, she shouldn't have done that” She said that unaliving yourself in a deadly sin.

But I believe she's just wrong, I don't believe god would eternally torture you because for me that would be like giving a victim of SA a life sentence. For some reason, it looks like many Christians believe people unalive themselves because of some dumb trend or something, when in reality Unalimentation is connected to things like depression, and depression is caused by things like: bullying. Witsh the save a Fox founder’s husband said that her wife was dealing with a lot of cyberbullying. People like her just needed help, but unfortunately, they didn't get it on time. That’s why I say that god punishing people that unalived themselves is like giving a victim of AS a life sentence. Those people are victims, they just needed help, and instead of giving them the help that they need, we are here just pressuring them not to unalive themselves. Witsh in fact is just making people unaliving themselves even more!

We need to understand that people don't unalive themselves because they believe it is funny or something, but because they are having a very hard time and then their brain just starts asking to end it all. And no, you just can't brush that thought. Trying not to have unaluvement thoughts is fighting your own brain, and fighting your own brain is like saying to a bird not to fly. And it doesn't matter if you say that unalaving in a sin. That is just saying to a bird not to fly because if they do you would shoot them. The same way they won't listen to you and just fly regardless of the consequences, your brain is going to have unalivement thoughts until or you end it all. Or you go get some help.

And the expression of: life is a gift from god just sounds stupid and a dumb way to justify those beliefs. In the same way some gifts can be terrible so as life. And instead of you trying to help that person fix their gift you’re just telling them that you get what you get and you can’t throw it away. Otherwise, there will be consequences.

And now talking about God handling unalivement. If god can see you so he would be able to see your sadness. And if God is all-powerful so he would be able to feel what you feel. Then having a lot of sympathy for you. So if god can see and feel you and your sadness and still choose to send you for internal torture that just would make God a horrible God. And then we get another big problem I have with a lot of other Christians. How they make God look like some sort of horrible being that has no mercy.

A good example if this is back when the wildfires were happening in California., how a lot of them say that the wildfires were a punishment by God. And at the same time, they say that God is love. But in the same way I can’t unalive 75 people and say I'm a good person so can’t god. Seriously whole forest where being destroyed. People were losing their homes and lives. And they were just making that horrible event as a deserved punishment. All of that just because some dumb dudes compared god to some guys. And for me, they are making god look like someone who can’t ignore dumb people and unalives everyone around to scare people off. Witsh that isn’t a lovely God, that is basically a tyrant.

That's why I don't believe that god made the wildfires, condemns unalivement, homosexuality, people from other faiths, or that who don’t believe in him. Or even hell to begin with. Because God is a god of love, not some monster that wants power, control, and attention.

That was my opinion, Thank you for the time. And sorry if something doesn't add up or there are a lot of misspells I'm a little tired of writing this and English is not my first language. Also, I'm better at speaking than writing. Also sorry if some information is wrong. But what I just want to say is that I don't believe god punishes people who unalived themslefs because it’s not their fault they were going through a difficult time.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

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I'm pretty sure that it's the other way around?

Gandalf was inspired by Yeshua.

 

That's a phrase that I heard recently, and I think that it's from some famous philosopher, but uhm...

I don't know how to debunk it.

I'm doing my best to believe without thinking too much about that.

Some days it gets hard tho, so I'd like to hear you guys' take on it.

 

Title kind of says it all, but I sometimes don’t get why he couldn’t have forgiven humanity.

I get time and time again he has but we didn’t listen, but I find it kind of hard to understand how an all loving God is able to give up his son.

I still love God ofc but this kind of confuses me.

Any thoughts?

 

Let me say that I'm not opposed to consensual adult sex work, at least in a secular sense, I don't believe that it should be illegal for the seller or even buyer (although Swaggert was never charged, also legally the correct decision as the evidence to meet the standard of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt was not there.)

But in Swaggert's case it makes him a rather blatant hypocrite not to mention clear sinner considering he was married.

What makes it even worse was his tearful apology video in 1988 only for him to get caught with another prostitute just three years later and showing the whole thing was likely an act.

But that's far from the worst that he did. Aside from his general promotion of hate in the 80s he engaged in fundraising for the Mozambique rebel group RENAMO, RENAMO was fighting to topple the Marxist government of Mozambique but engaged in such brutality and atrocities that even the US government opted not to back them.

And thus Swaggert opted to engage in fundraising for them and used a lot of his ministry funds to provide support.

Not much different from what funding ISIS or the Lord's Resistance Army would be.

Definitely his greatest crime and one he doesn't get enough attention for.

So he's with God now...I can only imagine what's being said. I am also trying not to rejoice in anyone's death.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Thanks.

Welcome to the team.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No problem.

Welcome

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Welcome.

Will do.

Feel free to reach out to !Pacrat173@lemmy.world, as well.

They're the Head Mod.

[–] Teknevra@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Welcome to the team

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