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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting this, Paul; I had meant to go through this year's abstracts more closely, so this saves me some time!

The image, aside from being spectacular and essential for visualizing this mission's progress, is one of those key diagrams that needs to be on a regularly-maintained "reference page" somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Personally, I'm fond of this recent shot of finely-banded material, or this interesting whitish-looking find, but... the wisdom of crowds, I guess.

There is just so much to see around here...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Question(s) for Paul Hammond:
Do you keep any rock specimens, personally? Would you find vesicular basalt to be charismatic enough to earn a place as one of your pet rocks? I see that you like these "shiny" or "polished" cobbles we've been seeing all mission long... I think... but we don't often analyze them in this much detail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AHHH the suspense! Come on relay network, send us the next ones ASAP! I know those sats are busy too, but this wait is killing me.

I really wasn't sure we'd abrade here. I mean, we skip past funky-looking darker caprock all the time (for months at a time when Ken Farley is in a hurry)! Even when the rover can physically reach it. Just look at this stuff, it's craggy and lumpy as anything... but that flattish patch they're grinding: yes.

Even with all the evidence for volcanic deposits around here, I honestly wouldn't guess what this abrasion patch might show us. Volcaniclastic rocks like tuff aren't the hardest for sure, but this stuff forms the resistant layer here. We focus a lot on sampling with this mission, understandably, but I'd love to read more about the science team's deliberations over whether we do (or don't) stop and abrade stuff. We always abrade before we take a sample, so abrasions are just as important as samples in a lot of ways...

Apologies for the word salad. Paul Hammond knows my pain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Judging by the rocks Percy has been viewing in the last few sols, this hillside has seen quite a bit of hot/volcanic material falling from the sky, and not just from a single asteroid impact either. The geology here is captivating.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In 2004, the Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity spotted so-called, “Martian Blueberries” at Meridiani Planum, and since then, the Curiosity rover has observed spherules in the rocks of Yellowknife Bay at Gale crater. Just a few months ago, Perseverance itself also spied popcorn-like textures in sedimentary rocks exposed in the Jezero crater inlet channel, Neretva Vallis. In each of these cases, the spherules were interpreted as concretions, features that formed by interaction with groundwater circulating through pore spaces in the rock. Not all spherules form this way, however. They also form on Earth by rapid cooling of molten rock droplets formed in a volcanic eruption, for instance, or by the condensation of rock vaporized by a meteorite impact.

See also this recent Mars Guy episode.

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This image is a close-up of the tailings (fine debris) left behind after Percy drilled for the latest successful sampling operation. The sharp contrast in colours seems to reveal a change found with increasing depth of drilling - the nearby abrasion patch, which is much shallower than the coring hole, mainly produced tailings of the duller, darker-toned kind seen surrounding the coring hole, as can be seen in this image comparing the two.

The row of small neat holes on the lighter-toned tailings (upper right) was created by the rover's LIBS laser (the "death-ray" originally made famous by Curiosity), which is used when we want to know what kinds of elements (e.g. iron, magnesium, calcium) the target is made of. This laser analysis was done about four sols after the core sample was originally taken, just before the rover drove off to its next field site.

What will the elemental analysis tell us? For one thing, the science team will know quickly if the change in colours is caused by a sharp difference in composition, that is, if the rock is made of fundamentally different stuff as you drill deeper down. If that is the case, it would show that this old bedrock we're driving over has more than one tale to tell about alteration, with different processes operating over just a few vertical centimetres near the surface. We already know from samples taken higher up the hill that this old crater rim has seen significant water activity... and yet earlier core samples didn't produce these multi-coloured tailings, so something different was happening at this exact spot.

If the lighter-toned tailings have the same basic elemental make-up as the duller stuff, we still learn a lot - it means something other than a change in building blocks is responsible for that notable difference in colour. It's worth noting that the ~35 prior drilling operations on this mission haven't produced more than one shade of tailings... except in the case of the super-intriguing sample #25, from the Neretva Vallis channel. I expect we'll be hearing a lot more about #25 in the next year or two - but as for the bedrock seen above in the latest one, #28, the scientists are pretty intrigued, given that they tried to get a second sample of this stuff, even before this latest laser analysis. Stay tuned!

EDITED to add context about earlier drilling operations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the second coring attempt at the very same target... with one sample already successfully extracted at this very spot.

They took only one sample at the leopard spots/Bright Angel/Neretva Vallis/potential biosignature site, but two here.

2025 is wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

There has been a strong culinary theme on this instance lately.

I suppose that balances out with the fact that many conversations at LPSC this week have been about DOGE-induced famines.

 

In which Sample #28 and abrasion patch #36 are discussed.

 

Source image

My favourite trailside Martian snack. A particular delight to anyone who misses Opportunity's long traverse in Meridiani Planum, home of the world-famous blueberries.

 

Despite the fragile nature of the target bedrock, we appear to have sampled successfully here, a ways down the hill from our last sampling site. In the recent past, more solid-looking material has crumbled when drilled, so I'm sure the rover team is happy with this one!

CacheCam close-up
Confirmation of seal from CacheCam

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

My mama always said old crater rims was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Regular readers will remember the "white rocks" that Percy was spotting in little clusters a few months ago, which Mars Guy, among others, was speculating might be quartz. The paper confirms that the first rock examined in detail in the video does contain that mineral, and is not simply another whitish mineral you might expect to find in this environment, like gypsum.

Part of the significance of this mineral being identified is the fact that it seems to comprise most of the rock being analyzed. Quartz-like material ("silica") has been discovered by Spirit, Curiosity and even Zhurong, thousands of km away from Jezero Crater, and Percy itself has already identified some in Sample 24, which we grabbed down in Neretva Vallis. Finding this much silicon dioxide, in multiple forms, in a rock that appears silica-dominated, however, is something new. That's water activity on another level - this is basically very refined silica that nature has cooked up. As the paper mentions, it would be very, very sweet to find an exposure of the source bedrock for these loose pebbles and cobbles, because that stuff we could drill for return to Earth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Shortest answer: quartz has to be separated from other rocks/minerals. Water action is one of the easiest ways to manage that. In addition, opal/chalcedony is actually quartz with water directly attached on a molecular level, so that's a direct discovery.

Medium answer: Igneous ("volcanic") rock already contains the silicon and oxygen that quartz is made of, but they're usually bonded with other elements, not just each other. In other words, they don't exist as "free quartz" - meaning independent grains that are made of pure SiO2. As @athairmor alluded to, free quartz can form directly from magma when it solidifies and forms igneous rock. However, that is what you would expect from particular kinds of volcanic rock, which are absent or rare on Mars (e.g. granite). The igneous rock around Jezero Crater is not the type to contain "free quartz". If the regional geology hasn't served up any free quartz grains directly, you can still separate out the silicon and oxygen by breaking down the larger, more complicated minerals they're attached to, but that would take a significant amount of chemical breakdown - i.e. significant amounts of water. This process is quite common on Earth, of course, where it yields up "white sand" on beaches - which is simply rounded grains of quartz.

Longest reply: I should probably just read the EPSL paper, and I'd be happy to summarize it here if people are interested.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So that means all four sampling attempts made here on Witch Hazel Hill have been difficult in some way. Two of the attempts were outright failures, the last successful one only filled half the tube, and this latest one, #27, "overflowing" to the point of rendering the seal difficult.

I count four "difficult" sampling operations from the entire mission prior to reaching the Hill (Sample 1 an outright failure, Sample 15 difficult to seal as Mars Guy refers to in the video, and two outright failures on the delta fan around sol 810-813), maybe five if you count that problem with the pebbles getting stuck in the bit carousel after successfully snagging Sample 6.

It may have taken 37 sols, but they finally did seal Sample 15, so I'm not overly worried about this problem with Sample 27. What I find striking about all of this is the intersection of the geology with the engineering. The problem we encountered with the very first sample (the stuff simply crumbling and escaping the tube before we could seal it) was a warning shot to the rover operations team, but a fascinating sign to the geologists: this stuff has seen some serious alteration since it was originally laid down! And that weak, friable Sample 1 material saw much less transformation by water, mineralogically speaking, than Sample 27...

We knew that we were going to find igneous ("volcanic") geology combined with sedimentary geology (old river mud and sandstone) on this mission, but the intersection of the two giving us these kinds of problems is going to become part of the legend of Mars exploration. It may not be as controversial or unexpected as the Disappearing Methane Hunt or the Viking-era "biosignature" tease, but this sampling difficulty shows us just how tricky Mars is going to be.

 

This latest abrasion patch is the third we've taken on Witch Hazel Hill, on the exterior rim of Jezero Crater, all within the last month. For comparison:

Percy is getting busy!

 

In a research article [...] a team led by Brian Jackson (Boise State University) described how they used information from Ingenuity to measure the speed and direction of Mars’s winds.

Previously, Jackson had carried out field experiments on Earth with a small drone to show that wind parameters could be extracted from an aircraft’s attitude data. Building on that proof-of-concept study, Jackson’s team used models to understand how Ingenuity’s attitude would change in response to winds of varying speed and direction.

The team calculated wind speeds ranging from 4.1 to 24.3 meters per second [...] Compared to meteorological models, the measured speeds tended to be higher than expected and the wind directions did not always match. These differences might reflect the influence of localized geological features, like craters and scarps that whip the wind in highly variable directions, that the models do not fully capture.

Jackson’s team found it unlikely that the higher speeds measured at Ingenuity’s higher altitude were the result of random fluctuations; instead, they proposed a physical explanation rooted in the aerodynamic conditions upwind of the rover and helicopter.

Accurate measurements of wind speeds on Mars can help scientists investigate our neighboring planet’s surface processes and dust transport, as well as help to plan safe entry, descent, and landing for future missions.

 

First coring attempt since sol 1215, when Perseverance was still down in Neretva Vallis (~6 months ago). That attempt was clearly successful on the first try, as this MastCam image from that date readily showed. Here's a shot taken from the same angle on 1401, with no sample apparent in the tube.

It's worth recalling that this target proved to be very friable (prone to crumbling) the last time Percy interacted with it, when the sol 1375 abrasion patch was made earlier in January.

The science team must really want a sample of this stuff! I am very much looking forward to the next mission update!

 

The video has a fair summary of recent work by Perseverance, and a suggestion as to why the rover may have turned around to climb back uphill.

(The latest abrasion patch was more interesting than Mars Guy lets on in the video, but it's worth a watch nonetheless)

 

Just making a thread for anyone who wants to commiserate about the lack of new images from Percy of late. Mods, feel free to delete if this doesn't belong here.

We shouldn't ever forget that many many JPL employees have lost their homes, which is more than just a "bummer". They might be launching their stuff into space, but the work of people at the lab is appreciated and its absence is felt in people's daily lives too.

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