SkippingRelax

joined 3 years ago
[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look, I am not "trying to push you into complying with the linguistic framework that legitimizes your perception of reality", I am telling you that language is important and you can't make words up or subvert the meaning of them, else society will not understand you at best, or think that you are just a lunatic at worst. Sure you can decide that for you "up" means "down" and insist that everyone else is wrong, but then you are probably wasting your time replying to others' comments on social media.

I get where you are coming from, you really care about your ideas, but so do antivaxers and lots of other radicalized groups that are just drifting off reality and, well most of society thinks they are just lunatics. I am not even a native English speaker but a few examples:

"Murder" is defined as the killing of a person. I understand why you are using it for animals but it comes off wrong, that's not what the word means, and the only use of it as an hyperbole (a karaoke singer killing a song) has the opposite meaning that you are trying to convey. There are plenty of words for describing the killing of animals and some of them are already loaded with meaning, it's not like "slaughter" and "butchering" are used lightly. You don't need to come up with your own vocabulary, that's like Trump saying "bigly" he looks like an idiot to a non-maga crowd.

The word "formula" refers is an artificial (formulated) human milk substitute, your use of it to refer to "cow's milk" sounds pretty ridiculous, particularly when you add another 3-4 words around it and when the rest of society uses the word milk to refer to cows' milk, or if specified, to other milks like goat or soy. Your example where you use "meat" to refer to grains is just bonkers; and describing meat as "rotting" is just silly, as technically so are broccoli that have been cut off the plan: specifying that any food is rotting while waiting to be eaten, while technically not wrong, makes the person you are talking to wonder what is going on in your head.

Now let's take this topic more broadly. Are the words vegans use merely 'edgy', or is it an attempt to encapsulate the totality of how monumentally bad of a predicament you carnists are putting us in? "Chick culling" sounds almost innocuous. Why don't you try looking up that term on YouTube, and see what that entails.

Based on the above, I am afraid it is merely 'edgy'. In fact it's worse, people that talk like this come through as they are either 12 years old trying to cause a reaction, or just lunatics. You are really not making any favour to your cause, and I will come back to that later because that is a shame Still on language, I am not sure in what world "Chick culling" sounds almost innocuous, it describes exactly what it is, quite perfectly, it's a horrible practice, do you really need to add any more words? One more thing that is quite annoying about radicalized groups is they tell you to check something up on Youtube or do your own research, I am very familiar with the concept of chick culling, I don't like it, you don't need to be vegan to know how certain industries work and suggesting it in that way is again off putting.

I am familiar with most of the arguments vegetarians and vegans use as I have been interested in tangential topics for a long time, I am passionate about environment, permaculture and food self sufficiency. Some of the points I actually agree with, I am against industrial practices like chicks culling, the way animals are treated in industrial farming, I agree that the planet would be better off if we all reduced meat consumption dramatically and if there were more vegetarians and vegans. I think that if someone is passionate about these and other messages they should try to convey them in a way that they can be absorbed by the rest of society. That is, if you want to convince anyone to marry your cause or part of it. And if you don't want to, why are you even wasting words?

The reason why I am particularly annoyed when people do this is that there are some topics that I would be interested to discuss like adults, particularly where I stop agreeing with veganism, and this is just off putting. Example, I have three egg producing chickens that are treated like pets, they have plenty of space, protection, access to food, water and treats, they play with my babies, and they drop one egg each every day that they quickly forget about and they proceed to ignore. I use those eggs to feed my family and to reduce our meat consumption with something that is organic, nutritious and (in my opinion) ethically produced with no impact on the planet. In fact, the contrary is true because those chickens eat my leftovers and I use their poo as fertiliser. I'd like to understand how many people are vegans because industrial farming is a horrible practice, and how many would for example still eat eggs if they were produced more "humanely" like I do, and the reason why I am interested is that i cannot conceive non-industrial farming without animals being heavily involved, at the very least for using their shit to grow plants. In short, there are some discussions I'd enjoy having, but every time a vegan engages they distort the language and they make the assumption that I don't know anything about industrial farming :)

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I love this, "If vegans weren't [x], we would..." ... what? Take us seriously, what do you mean by that? Are you implying that if only I would say the approved things, you would actually go vegan?!

No not go vegan, but yes take you seriously and engage in an intelligent conversation, you know not like I'm talking with an edgy 12 years old

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You think milk is the cause why you have obesity, diabetes and hearth disease?

Look vegetarians and vegans have a couple of good points that can be used to get more people interested. Keep going calling milk whatever you called it, referring to 'murdered animals' and making up shit to explain obesity and no wonder you can't even convince your mum to take you seriously.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Sure, and that why when you walk into a shop and ask for milk, everyone asks you "what kind of milk would you like"?

baby cow growth formula.

LOL, way to be taken seriously

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Re your edit, no one is simping for Starbucks, just common sense. You don't have to have milk with your coffee. For fuck sake, you don't even have to have a coffee.

Want something unusual in your coffee? Pay for it.

Not happy, about how much they are charging for it. Make your fucking coffee at home before leaving the house and put whatever you want in there.

We are not talking insulin prices here, let's get real.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I was under the impression that Bolsorano had more support from the armed forces.

And so was he

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

a whole lot of programmers would have had to go out of their way to be really, really bad at their jobs.

You don't spend much time around them, do you?

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Because on lemmy you can't have a reasonable discussion about meat eating without being brigaded by vegans that add little to the conversation besides meat cruel and meat pollution.

Mate here brought up a good example. I myself raise chickens for egg production (i also engage in less sustainable/ humane meat eating to be frank). Would be happy to have an intelligent conversation with someone besides the usual 3-4 arguments like 'battery chickens' which don't apply to my chooks are happy, have plenty of space, toys, food and protection.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Also from Piemonte I've never heard the horse brand one but "three hens brand" was used regularly when I was a kid.

My favourite though is "Coma na barca ant el bòsch", like a boat in the woods

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If you are into surveillance wouldn't it be easier to just install cameras everywhere and record everything? Then phone can stay away and locked.

To be clear, I'm not advocating for this, it sounds like a 1984 nightmare. It's just that you don't need kids with phones to enact surveillance

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don't see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn't consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Been on reddit for over a decade, never heard of this channel. On lemmy since a few weeks, I keep reading about him and his dishwasher video at least twice a week.

And yes, I've watched it a couple of weeks ago, it is good. I'll have to watch some of his other videos sometimes

 

King oyster cloned to agar in July 2022 from store bought mushrooms. Did a second transfer shortly after to a number of plates and also put some on WBS so I successfully grew some fruits back then.

Then life took over and the agar plates were forgotten for 14 months. As I have some spare time to go back to that hobby now I thought why not? I put some of that myc that I thought was dead on agar, and some on two WBS jars. This one seems to have come back to life, pic is from 7 days ago, it is all fuzzy now so almost time to put it in a bucket with straw or cardboard.

First post on lemmy, and quite new to the whole cloning to agar so I guess this was just luck. I also have another jar and agar plates that seem infected if someone is interested or wants to give me a second opinion.

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